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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2024 15:59:31 GMT
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Post by Clive on Aug 4, 2024 16:57:22 GMT
Clive, now we probably don´t have the exact same throttle configuration but my conclusion was initially similar. But later i realized that the sibilance was so effectively removed that the sound now appeared to be less dynamic. I then started to realize that I could now crank the volume much more, without the sound appearing to sound "loud" (shouty) and by doing that the dynamics actually improved, at the end of the day. I have seen some people that keep the volume fixed, when comparing these things, which actually can be a mistake (in my opinion). I just wanted to share my own experience but i am not claiming that i am necessary correct or that it will be the same for you! Hi Tobias, last night I was thinking about the exact situation you describe. Today I’m going to try a more extended listening session this time with the Throttle Cable. Last night without the cable I ended my session strangely a little meh. As an a/b comparison the Throttle Cable lost out at little but on extended listening it could be a different result. I’m back to preferring the Throttle Cable with the TP Link router / WiFi Extender. I’ve been playing tracks that are simply ok in terms of mastering, these benefit more from the Throttle Cable than the really well recorded stuff that can’t fail to draw you in. The Throttle Cable I’m currently using has the Wurth core and Cat 5e/6 cable with the 5 ferrites. |
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Post by Clive on Aug 4, 2024 16:58:45 GMT
Are they replacing it? They’re usually good at replacements. It’s a pain though. I’ve got one I could send if you have a problem with Amazon. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2024 17:23:51 GMT
Are they replacing it? They’re usually good at replacements. It’s a pain though. I’ve got one I could send if you have a problem with Amazon. Thanks, Clive. No, as the eBay one came from HK I've requested a refund and ordered one in stock from Amazon. It's not a priority as I am working on another more promising idea for SQ uplift, if even there is any more to give (I cannot believe what I'm hearing already). |
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Post by trhh on Aug 6, 2024 11:59:35 GMT
Are they replacing it? They’re usually good at replacements. It’s a pain though. I’ve got one I could send if you have a problem with Amazon. It's not a priority as I am working on another more promising idea for SQ uplift, if even there is any more to give (I cannot believe what I'm hearing already). Can you tell a bit more? Torben |
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 6, 2024 12:06:05 GMT
New speakers Martin?  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 6, 2024 12:07:32 GMT
I have received the replacement ferrite ring today. Let's hope this one is in a single piece. If so, I'll try the throttle cable tonight. |
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Post by HD Music & Test on Aug 6, 2024 12:48:06 GMT
New speakers Martin? Joolz I would suggest the new X30 |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 6, 2024 12:49:43 GMT
New speakers Martin? Erm. No. |
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 6, 2024 13:19:30 GMT
New speakers Martin? Joolz I would suggest the new X30 I already have a DAC that I haven't used Tony but won't clog up the choking thread with that ... |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 6, 2024 16:48:25 GMT
Hah, it wasn't the ferrite ring, it was my DAC cable. Over to the other thread.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2024 15:57:53 GMT
I've made up the throttle cable from the ferrite ring and a 2m spare uGreen Cat 7 cable. It's about to go into circuit for listening. More later.  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2024 16:22:37 GMT
Well, the effect of the throttle cable can be easily heard without any effort on my part. Playing just my favourite Melissa Tallon - Worthy Love told me all I need to know.
The cable manages to both dull the treble and, remarkably, suck all the air and space out of the recording, making it sound as if it had been recorded in a drier acoustic. Suddenly the soundstage has collapsed and the performance sounds smaller, with reduced dynamics. I can't hear one thing it has done that is better.
I do believe, from all the evidence I have, that my system is bumping along with a very low noise floor. In that regard, I'm probably extracting a large part of what it has to offer already. The act of applying a fairly extreme level of filtering to the ethernet data is no doubt harming the squareness of the waveform and causing far more uncertainty at the input triggering of the ER switch while having minimal effect on the remaining noise.
I can only assume that any success with this cable would be as a crutch in attempting to fix more fundamental issues with the system's noise level.
What can I say? Yucky yuk, this is not for me at all. Sorry guys!
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Post by nicholas on Aug 8, 2024 16:46:15 GMT
Well, the effect of the throttle cable can be easily heard without any effort on my part. Playing just my favourite Melissa Tallon - Worthy Love told me all I need to know. The cable manages to both dull the treble and, remarkably, suck all the air and space out of the recording, making it sound as if it had been recorded in a drier acoustic. Suddenly the soundstage has collapsed and the performance sounds smaller, with reduced dynamics. I can't hear one thing it has done that is better. I do believe, from all the evidence I have, that my system is bumping along with a very low noise floor. In that regard, I'm probably extracting a large part of what it has to offer already. The act of applying a fairly extreme level of filtering to the ethernet data is no doubt harming the squareness of the waveform and causing far more uncertainty at the input triggering of the ER switch while having minimal effect on the remaining noise. I can only assume that any success with this cable would be as a crutch in attempting to fix more fundamental issues with the system's noise level. What can I say? Yucky yuk, this is not for me at all. Sorry guys! Matches my experience as well. |
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Post by Tobias on Aug 8, 2024 17:01:01 GMT
Yes, but it depends on how it is done, what success you get.
different ferrit core’s target different frequencies of noise and if you use the wrong core, that target a frequency that you have already cleaned, then it will not do anything.
I also think it should be a normal patch cable (no shielding) and not any parts that is not ”covered” with ferrit.
It get worse it you have exposed cable that is worse then the cable you had, i think.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Aug 8, 2024 17:24:10 GMT
I've made up the throttle cable from the ferrite ring and a 2m spare uGreen Cat 7 cable. It's about to go into circuit for listening. More later. Did you add the clip on Ferrites? Can see them on the photo,or did you add them later? |
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Post by Tobias on Aug 8, 2024 17:27:28 GMT
I have to correct my self. The latest "version" of the throttle cable that has been "developed" has CAT6 cable i now noticed. In that one they use 3 different cores and some clamps, to target an even broader frequency range, as i understand it. I ordered all the parts earlier this week to try them out. But it needs to end up like a short stubby snake, more or less covered with Ferrits.
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Post by Tobias on Aug 8, 2024 17:32:58 GMT
Another factor is that the cable needs to be bendy since it should be tight against the ferrit core, with as little air as possible between.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2024 17:38:25 GMT
Did you add the clip on Ferrites? Can see them on the photo,or did you add them later? No, Damien. After listening to the cable, I didn't want to continue with it rather than add even more filtering. I have loads of snap chokes, but have removed every one from my system a long time ago. |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Aug 8, 2024 18:14:51 GMT
Did you add the clip on Ferrites? Can see them on the photo,or did you add them later? No, Damien. After listening to the cable, I didn't want to continue with it rather than add even more filtering. I have loads of snap chokes, but have removed every one from my system a long time ago. I see...no clamps,Thats part of the design, it should also be 8 turns over the ring,rather than ten, that's a strong possibility of your outcome of sucking the life out of it at one frequency band. Of course I understand if you come to a decision,but following the exact design if a must, that way we can get a clearer picture,and a level playing field to judge on. |
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