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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2014 7:23:05 GMT
Size of Cone and material Size and quality of magnet (more maxwells and flux density) Size (dia.) and quality of voice coil and preferably edgewound and underhung High efficiency Higher impedance (15 Ohm +) Good list. Add to that the Q (damping factor) of the speaker driver. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 8:15:17 GMT
The old addage may apply here 'There aint no substitute for cubes' from our American cousins. The new JBL's Martin mentioned a few posts back I listened to at a reviewers a couple of months back, very capable speakers. Huge SPL, great presence, lots of bounce and drive, slam plenty for John to  One of the best civilized domestic PA speakers I have ever heard, (PMC should make notes). If your in the market for big bangers that are well behaved then these are worth a serious audition. Though do bear in mind you will need a somewhat larger room that your average 25 by 20 UK effort  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2014 8:43:39 GMT
Though do bear in mind you will need a somewhat larger room that your average 25 by 20 UK effort Hah! If I could have those (I assume you're talking feet) as my dimensions next time I'd be happy. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 9:07:49 GMT
The old addage may apply here 'There aint no substitute for cubes' from our American cousins. The new JBL's Martin mentioned a few posts back I listened to at a reviewers a couple of months back, very capable speakers. Huge SPL, great presence, lots of bounce and drive, slam plenty for John to One of the best civilized domestic PA speakers I have ever heard, (PMC should make notes). If your in the market for big bangers that are well behaved then these are worth a serious audition. Though do bear in mind you will need a somewhat larger room that your average 25 by 20 UK effort I've listend to the Everests in Germany and they are very good but, comparing them to the Array 1400 which have the same attributes you describe but just not quite matching the Everests (very close), I think the Array offers far better vfm and of course far better imaging. Don't look as impressive though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 9:31:55 GMT
Hi Andy
I would agree with thoughts on the array's, however both speakers offer enormous fun factor and will give many hours of great listening pleasure.
Though for me personally the are too coloured and lack real insight for me, but then I'm fussy lol!
That said a very fine speaker without question.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2014 10:02:58 GMT
I used to have a pair of JBL L-100Ts. They were very, very good for the money and sure gave a glimpse of that fun factor of their bigger cousins. Nice 12" bass driver gave great wallop.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 10:59:40 GMT
Good as the JBL's are I much prefer to listen to my BTH or Westrex speakers which despite being 61 and 53 years old respectively still IMHO sound better than any commercially available speakers I've listened to  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 11:23:40 GMT
I used to have a pair of JBL L-100Ts. They were very, very good for the money and sure gave a glimpse of that fun factor of their bigger cousins. Nice 12" bass driver gave great wallop.Much better word than 'scale' |
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Post by jammy on Aug 8, 2014 12:12:03 GMT
Size does NOT matter one iota.......Ask Shona !!!
Why is DQ suffering Bias Moderation like Mr Dunn previously.
MODERATION: the rest removed. DQ is being moderated as fairly as anyone else here. In fact, if you read closely you will see that he has hardly been moderated at all - only when he has broken the rules. |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Aug 8, 2014 12:39:48 GMT
Yawn..
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Post by jammy on Aug 8, 2014 12:55:42 GMT
Go ahead punk plug that sucker in and make our day....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 12:57:14 GMT
Hi Jammy, Nice to see you having some good positive things to contribute to this forum.  |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Aug 8, 2014 12:59:57 GMT
Indeed. Such a pleasant character.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 8, 2014 13:51:01 GMT
Indeed. Such a pleasant character. Yep, and he probably doesn't have the balls to insult you face to face  |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Aug 8, 2014 13:53:21 GMT
Of course not. Probably bullied at school.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 14:01:11 GMT
Sorry guys but its one thing to complain about the children in the playground and quite another to descend to their level. I don't think you should carry on with this conversation.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 8, 2014 14:09:12 GMT
Sorry guys but its one thing to complain about the children in the playground and quite another to descend to their level. I don't think you should carry on with this conversation. Fully with you there Gordon |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2014 14:09:31 GMT
Agreed. jammy started the rudeness but I'm stopping it here. Back to speakers please.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 8, 2014 15:43:12 GMT
Actually jammy retaliated to wobble. He was of course merely wondering why it was fine to call me a cock :Dand for Gordon to continually moan whilst perpetrating the very same thing he moans about. Gordon is clearly prevalent in news speak.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 8, 2014 16:42:41 GMT
You can speak for yourself, DQ. I've let jammy's other comment ride and hopefully we can now move on?
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