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Post by Slinger on Aug 3, 2018 15:40:28 GMT
...Good sub integration should not sound like having a sub at all. I agree, mostly, but there are exceptions to that rule... There are times when the sound guys on the movie deliberately target the sub to get that "rumble" as part of an explosion or an earthquake or even a truck going by, in an attempt to reproduce something akin to what you'd feel in the real world, and that's when your sub needs to be big enough, (i.e. have enough headroom) to handle it. if you want to experience everything that the directors/sound designers intend you probably need a bigger driver. If you just want to pad the sound out by an octave(ish) then no problem. |
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Post by naim1425 on Aug 3, 2018 16:22:49 GMT
sub`s should be a extension to the bass in the system if its set up right,the movie will have the enhancements in the bass area for the deeper sub levels,it should just blend in and not be over blowin
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Post by MartinT on Aug 3, 2018 20:39:31 GMT
Here it is in position in the corner, having set it up with pink noise and the spectrum analyser phone app. It's doing a good job, only making itself known on powerful bass lines. Frequency set to lowest crossover and gain set quite low, running off the high level amp outputs. I knew I'd find a use for those SVS subwoofer feet eventually. It floats on them, decoupled from the floor.  |
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Post by speedysteve on Aug 4, 2018 9:32:31 GMT
Here it is in position in the corner, having set it up with pink noise and the spectrum analyser phone app. It's doing a good job, only making itself known on powerful bass lines. Frequency set to lowest crossover and gain set quite low, running off the high level amp outputs. I knew I'd find a use for those SVS subwoofer feet eventually. It floats on them, decoupled from the floor. That was a steal! |
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Post by naim1425 on Aug 4, 2018 10:05:48 GMT
 this is good for your sub,if you don`t have it already |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2018 12:09:18 GMT
Here's the in-room spectral analysis from the seating position using a pink noise test track. I tweaked the bass down a little more after this and now it sounds great on both music and film.  |
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Post by speedysteve on Aug 19, 2018 21:56:19 GMT
Having got a sound bar that does 3.0 and having added rears I thought it would be nice to have a sub for action films. I have a reasonable Yamaha sub but of course it's not Sonos WiFi enabled. I thought to drive from the L & R phonos on the back of the Panasonic TV, bit they are input only  Searched around for the headphone output. It's by the HDMI sockets, tucked away. From the menu I found I can preset the H/P volume and then the hdmi and optical output volume is adjustable up and down, along with the H/P volume in sync - result! Fed that into the sub. Works a treat.. nice rumble going on when needed. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 20, 2018 5:56:37 GMT
I should add a coda about our LG TV (LG OLED55B7V) and the audio system. It has completely met our needs and exceeds my expectation for picture quality. This fantastic 55" OLED 4K TV is on sale at Richer Sounds for £1299 and for that price it's superb.
We routed everything via a single HDMI cable to the TV, using ARC audio return into our Chinese HDMI switcher to extract the S/PDIF audio into the Caiman-II DAC. External sources are a SkyHD box and Pioneer Blu-ray player.
The TV itself comes with WebOS which is a rather good TV OS and has apps installable from the LG Store. I've installed YouTube and Spotify so far. Netflix and Amazon Prime come pre-installed. The apps auto-update whenever required and the wi-fi connection works seamlessly. I've setup the TV picture for the most natural settings (lower contrast, low sharpness, no TrueMotion, high colour gamut, low noise reduction) and replicated it across all inputs. The remote is Wii-like in that you wave it around to move the cursor onscreen. It takes a little getting used to but it's a good way to move around the menus quickly.
I've only watched 4K footage from YouTube (the Sony test video) and it looks outstanding. What has really surprised me is the quality of the HD upscaling. Watching dramas and films on Sky HD and Netflix is an amazing experience and looks like higher resolution compared with our old Panasonic HD TV. Although I watch very little SD (some documentaries and YouTube), the upscaling here is also amazing. It can't make it look like HD, but it does a lot to smooth the jaggies and make it look punchy and decent. F1 in HD looks fab, I can't imagine what it will look like in 4K.
The sound is very good with excellent imaging from the Wharfedale speakers. Diction is clean and soundtracks sound so much better with good reproduction quality. TV sound really is pants! The subwoofer has integrated well and is capable of reproducing the seismic shocks that some directors love so much. Playing music from Spotify works well for those times I'm in there rather than in the music room.
We're really very happy that this project has gone so well, the most difficult part by far was hiding the cables inside the walls.
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Post by speedysteve on Aug 20, 2018 8:29:36 GMT
Martin, Have you watched the film Valarian? Pretty rubbish plot and the lead characters look to be in their mid teens  , but the Rhianna part with music and the outro music is particularly bassy! |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 20, 2018 10:06:48 GMT
I'll see if it's in Sky Cinema or Netflix. I'm not paying for it as it looked rubbish when I saw the trailer!
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Post by Slinger on Aug 20, 2018 12:06:57 GMT
So, Martin, is it too soon after the Sub to start mentioning the benefits a good centre speaker in a 5.1 setup, and what rear speakers can bring to the party?  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 20, 2018 12:10:36 GMT
Way too early!!!  |
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Post by speedysteve on Aug 20, 2018 12:14:34 GMT
Netflix  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 20, 2018 12:40:13 GMT
I've been using Netflix while step-daughter is around. It seems good but I'm damned if I'm going to pay for that as well as Sky.
I need to think about whether I'm going to go with Sky Q or not. I really want F1 in 4K and the Sky HD channels, so I guess that answers the question.
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 21, 2018 10:31:41 GMT
There seems to be a current trend amongst manufacturers for ditching 40" screens in favour of 43" - makes my choice of new screen very restricted indeed!
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 21, 2018 12:57:07 GMT
Bigger and maybe not better
'Normal' seems to be 65" now !
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 21, 2018 13:05:22 GMT
Exactly, not everyone can or wants to accommodate a screen of that size ...
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Post by Clive on Aug 21, 2018 13:47:56 GMT
65 is what we have in our dedicated TV room and it's great; I certainly wouldn't want a TV that size in a lounge or other room that wasn't dedicated for TV/films.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 21, 2018 14:07:33 GMT
I wonder if the 50" I have is overkill.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 21, 2018 14:25:21 GMT
The 55" we have in the sitting room is just perfect, especially for the viewing distance.
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, but the Rhianna part with music and the outro music is particularly bassy! 
