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Post by covenant on Apr 2, 2017 16:29:08 GMT
I am thinking of replacing my 8 year old Pioneer 43" tv with a new 55 " one. There is lots of choice out there but the technology keeps changing. Anyone got a QLED tv yet? Is is worth paying over 2k for one? Is OLED better? Would it be better to buy a straightforward LED one and stick with a good make like Sony? Decisions, decisions......
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Post by MartinT on Apr 2, 2017 17:14:26 GMT
OLED is superb but expensive. We looked at the LG OLED sets and thought them no better than the cheaper Samsungs. The Samsung UE55KS7000 looked superb for much less money than the leading edge technologies.
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Post by speedysteve on Apr 2, 2017 20:13:00 GMT
We look at all of them but prefer the lighting and picture quality of our plasma panel. Don't know what we'll do when that goes pop!
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 5:45:47 GMT
I like my Panasonic plasma but I'd like to upgrade to UHD at some point.
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Post by covenant on Apr 3, 2017 6:26:30 GMT
The Samsung UE55KS7000 looked superb for much less money than the leading edge technologies. Yes Martin, thats one I may well go for as it is half the cost of this years QLED model. The only thing that might put me off is viewing at an angle. I believe its no so good in this regard.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 7:23:23 GMT
I'll have another look at it when I'm next able to. Won't be buying until late summer as that's the schedule for sorting out our sitting room. The price at Richer Sounds is now only £899.
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Post by steveeb on Apr 3, 2017 9:25:00 GMT
My 10 year old 50" Plasma appears to be dying over recent months, the colour and contrast suddenly drop drastically and return on restarting the set. Been researching to replace it, had almost settled on a 50" Panasonic - but your call on the Samsung (a common recommended alternative) Martin, has probably settled it. I can get it locally for £840 with free delivery!
I'm not concerned about the viewing angle limitation, seems to me that if a 55" screen is suitable for your room then you should be sitting far enough away to be in the sweet zone. One thing I look for and which both the Panasonic and Samsung report to have, is decent upscale of standard definition material. It's all very well to have stunning HDR or 4K capability and reviews of ultimate ability but that won't be every day viewing...
Another consideration for me is for a natural and subtle colour and shading. The majority of pictures I've seen on 'impressive new' TVs in homes have a cartoon brilliance and exaggerated depth of field that looks like a soap opera. My reference are the Panasonics and Loewe sets displayed at my local HiFi store, which have spoiled/ educated me for what is possible. The Samsung 7000 appears to address these concerns and without a lot of faffing with settings; I found good settings suggestions in the reviews but it's apparently near perfect straight from the box.
Looks like I'll be getting one too - especially as my wife keeps asking "haven't you ordered it yet - if it was on Very I'd have done it already!"
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Post by steveeb on Apr 3, 2017 9:39:19 GMT
Oh, another important consideration, one of the reasons I chose the Plasma with interlacing before, is the Samsung's superb motion control. No TAS member should be giving a second's thought to the TV's internal sound... I was talking to someone recently about my building speakers and in the context of the conversation, about how good watching TV and movies with them was. "Oh, do people still do that? - I thought everyone used Soundbars now" "Only those who don't know or appreciate what they're missing"
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 10:35:18 GMT
One thing I look for and which both the Panasonic and Samsung report to have, is decent upscale of standard definition material. . . Another consideration for me is for a natural and subtle colour and shading. . . No TAS member should be giving a second's thought to the TV's internal sound... Yes, we're going to be looking at standard HD for a long time yet, so it's important to me, too. I thought the Samsung outstanding in the natural looking but razor sharp picture created. I really dislike the vivid picture mode in sets, created to impress shoppers during demos. I can spot it a mile away as it's so unnatural. If you have a demo, insist that they turn it off. No indeed, but since the TV system is now separate from my music system, things will be considerably more modest. We plan to re-use Ruth's Wharfedale Diamonds with a sub, driven from a Caiman-II DAC and Sony amplifier. Speech clarity is very important to her and the Diamonds are good at that.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 3, 2017 11:41:05 GMT
Have a good think at how the 55" would fit in your room. I have a 50" and I wonder if it is a bit too big in our quite big room.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 11:47:50 GMT
I need to measure up to make sure, but our current 42" is a bit lost in the large room.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 3, 2017 15:53:18 GMT
Normality is changing of course.
I remember getting the biggest CRT i could, monster 28"
Now I see people trading *up* from 50" - often in normal size rooms
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Post by covenant on Apr 3, 2017 16:24:23 GMT
The viewing angle thing is important to me as we have two settee's with one at right angles to the screen. The result is the person nearest the screen is looking almost along the screen. Its fine with the plasma. I wouldn't even switch the sound on- 7.1 with DTS on a nice Denon AV amp.
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Post by steveeb on Apr 3, 2017 16:33:38 GMT
Normality is changing of course. I guess partly due to the finer resolution, which allows closer viewing without pixelation for a larger screen. Used to be like stereo, you needed a certain distance for integration and optimum illusion. Also the slim profiles and almost non-existent surrounds means a larger screen is less imposing than it used to be. Glad to see that 3D seems to be dying a natural death - I'd rather have developments enhance the suspension of disbelief and involvement rather than distract from it. Saw my first curved screen in the flesh recently. I couldn't live with the viewing angle limits of one of those either, strange affair.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Apr 3, 2017 17:31:45 GMT
I am thinking of replacing my 8 year old Pioneer 43" tv with a new 55 " one. There is lots of choice out there but the technology keeps changing. Anyone got a QLED tv yet? Is is worth paying over 2k for one? Is OLED better? Would it be better to buy a straightforward LED one and stick with a good make like Sony? Decisions, decisions...... Sony 55" LED my suggestion. I have 2 and a 65" Panny Plasma as the mains TV The Sony's are superb.
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Post by daytona600 on Apr 3, 2017 18:19:26 GMT
Projector - movies & sports ideal
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 19:13:59 GMT
Glad to see that 3D seems to be dying a natural death - I'd rather have developments enhance the suspension of disbelief and involvement rather than distract from it. Saw my first curved screen in the flesh recently. I couldn't live with the viewing angle limits of one of those either, strange affair. So glad that 3D is dying as it's complete pants - in the cinema, too. With very few exceptions, I associate it with crap films, too. Curved screens just accentuate extreme viewing angle issues.
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Post by covenant on Apr 3, 2017 19:19:29 GMT
So glad that 3D is dying as it's complete pants - in the cinema, too. With very few exceptions, I associate it with crap films, too.
Curved screens just accentuate extreme viewing angle issues.
Both are just gimmicks
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Post by MartinT on Jul 11, 2018 5:55:11 GMT
It's come time to purchase. At the moment, the LG OLED55B7V is looking superb value at £1299 from Richer Sounds with a further £100 off until 15 July. This is a 55" does-everything ultra-slim set with amazing picture quality. Only the Panasonic compares and that uses the same panel but is more pricy.
Then I have to work out how to bury the cables behind a complex fireplace, but that's another story.
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Post by pre65 on Jul 11, 2018 9:00:29 GMT
I went for an LG 55" (55UJ670v) a while ago, it's not OLED but was a lot less expensive.
Picture quality is good with the right material.
It looked HUGE when I got it but not any more.
Mine came from Richer Sounds as well and had extra warranty. Delivered by lorry with driver and assistant.
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