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Post by Chris on Apr 6, 2015 19:01:29 GMT
Not happy here. As a few of you may be aware work has been a bit rocky for me recently. I've fallen foul of my two superiors who,for the last year and a half have tried to make my life miserable. They have been on the lookout to fuck me over at every opportunity and last trip I stupidly gave them an opening. I walked a bit close to a Helis tail rotor(a BIG no no) which was a genuine mistake on my part. I've done literally hundreds of Heli turnarounds and this is the first one I've fucked up on and,basically,they've thrown the book at me resulting in a suspension from work. Im due into the office Thursday to discover my fate(I'm expecting the sack) but wondered if any of the learned gentlemen whom abound here have any words of wisdom they can offer? Needless to say I'm not looking forward to this.
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Post by John on Apr 6, 2015 19:39:45 GMT
I would own up as a genuine mistake myself I would also find someone to go to the meeting with me as you should be entitled to this. Can you speak to someone who is in the industry who can help I imagine they need good reason to dismiss and not sure how this fits into that. Can you prove they been making life hard for you. If yes also might be worth complaining about their behaviour towards you. Keep calm in the meeting and be very objective rather than reacting All the best in this Chris
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 19:45:24 GMT
The best person who can attend a meeting with you is a union representative.
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Post by Chris on Apr 6, 2015 19:46:31 GMT
Exactly the way Iwas hoping to progress John. I intend to own up as it was my own fault and I do intend to raise their behaviour towards me as well. I've sent the rig manager emails to inform him this was going on as well as requesting rig and crew changes from personnel and this has all been ignored. Finding someone to join me will be difficult due to the short notice and the fact no one wants involved. Keeping calm will be no problem as will being objective.
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Post by Chris on Apr 6, 2015 19:49:11 GMT
I'm not in any unions wonkycustard.
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Post by Paul Barker on Apr 6, 2015 19:51:25 GMT
Depending on the individual and the union.
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Post by Paul Barker on Apr 6, 2015 19:56:30 GMT
I feel for you Chris being in that work dynamic at all . Sadly very common, have had a few similar scenarios.
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 6, 2015 20:00:06 GMT
Admit to making a stupid mistake - that's the only way to deal with it. Also point out that you realise how serious it is and that you have had time to reflect on the impact it could have had on your workmates, management, you [literally(!)], and not least, your family. I would be very careful about the timing of when you bring up the victimisation allegations and prepare yourself so you can set out your case calmly and rationally. Good luck with it Chris.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 6, 2015 20:20:23 GMT
Awkward Work out what you want from the meeting and focus on that
Stay as calm as you can even when prodded.
Hold the past experience in reserve as it doesn't apply to this specifically. If and when they bring it up you can bring it up carefully.
None of us know it like you do so be prepared to carefully think on your feet
All the best from me
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Apr 6, 2015 20:23:09 GMT
Sorry to hear mate, hope it goes ok for you. Keep the heid!
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Post by Chris on Apr 6, 2015 20:31:40 GMT
Many thanks gents.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 6, 2015 20:38:58 GMT
Lots of good advice given here already. Sorry about your situation, Chris. Definitely take someone with you to the meeting. Most places of work would need to follow a process of verbal and written warnings first, but I know nothing about the oil industry. It's worth your finding out from your employment policies.
Good luck!
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Post by Chris on Apr 6, 2015 21:19:14 GMT
Yip Had the written warning already MartinT. Nobody to go with me though.
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Post by Slinger on Apr 6, 2015 22:17:13 GMT
You might find these useful Disciplinary procedures and action against you at workRepresentation at the hearingNote the section that states "This disciplinary meeting (normally called a ‘hearing’) should be at a reasonable time and place." If you feel you haven't had enough time to prepare you should contact your employer and ask them to reschedule the meeting. Also you should find out if you are entitled to representation at the meeting under the terms of your contract. If so you could ask for the meeting to be postponed for a reasonable amount of time to arrange that representation. Best of luck.
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Post by Chris on Apr 7, 2015 5:12:58 GMT
Cheers Slinger that was very handy.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 7, 2015 7:28:45 GMT
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Post by Chris on Apr 7, 2015 7:56:57 GMT
After reading a couple of the links I've gotten in touch with OILC who are the offshore Union. I'm hoping someone from there can help.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 8:23:12 GMT
Good luck Chris!
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Post by AlanS on Apr 7, 2015 9:31:41 GMT
I had similar in the past but was on land and had a rep. Well worth it for a calming influence if nothing else. If they are used to handing such events so much the better. Hope it works out OK.
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Post by danielquinn on Apr 7, 2015 9:35:49 GMT
It is difficult to advise without having knowledge of the actual industry , however 1 written warning does not necessarily lead to the sack unless the offence is a sackable offence in itself .
is the offence gross misconduct in itself ? How many other people have done it ? In circumstances like this it is helpful to look at what happened to people who committed the same offence . parity of treatment should be expected or explained .
also what does the literature they have given you said , what was previously explained to be the consequence of such an offence .
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