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Post by pre65 on Oct 26, 2014 11:44:12 GMT
This could be as controversial as cables. 
Looks like I need four new tyres on the Volvo.
They are 225/45 - 17 91Y
The fronts were Michelin Pilot sport 3 and have not lasted that long. Rears were Pirelli P6000 and were on the car when I purchased it.
I'm tempted to go for Pirelli P7 @ £91.50 each fully inclusive as a good balance between grip and long life.
Any other suggestions ?
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Post by MartinT on Oct 26, 2014 12:03:28 GMT
I've tried many and keep returning to Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 2. Great grip in both wet and dry and superbly sure-footed handling. Wear is average.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 12:28:35 GMT
I would suggest conti sport contact 5's almost the grip of the PS 3's much better wear' quieter road noise and better ride
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 13:31:35 GMT
I changed from Conti Sport Contact 5 tyres as they seemed to wear out too quickly for my liking.
I am currently trying Goodyear Efficent Grip (or something similar) which have A+ rated grip in the wet. It's still early days yet.
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Post by speedysteve on Oct 26, 2014 14:32:22 GMT
No 45 profile tyre will last well. Unfortunately it's fashion and the car manufactures buy in bulk and get them incredibly cheap - sadly come replacement time the customer has to pay lots and as you have found they do not last very well and the ride is usually hard and noisy. Esp on our ever poorer roads. More and more folks are getting wise to this and asking for new vehicles to be supplied on a size or 2 smaller wheels instead and fitting higher profile tyres. The ride is better and the the tyres last longer. Unless you want to to tear around and then really poor mileage out of them very low profile tyres aren't good for much! Better to get a Caterham and fit 13" wheels to it and really rear around;) Sorry that didn't help you much - but I feel better Rant over |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Oct 26, 2014 15:28:16 GMT
I wouldn't touch Pirelli with a bargole Phil. Had P Zero Rosso on a set of alloys I bought for my Alfa. Only time I ever had the back end step out on me on a roundabout in the wet was with these tyres, and no, I wasn't pushing it. With the ZZ3's I had on it previously, I could pretty much push as hard as I wanted, wet or dry. The Jag I recently bought has P6000's on it, and they are positively dangerous in the wet, grip is abysmal, and braking is scary, nearly went straight through a roundabout the other day.
Both sets were fine n the dry though.
From past personal experience, I'd go for Falken F452 Phil. They give 95% of the performance of the top tyres for 50% of the cost. The owner of the tyre place I go to can obviously have any tyres he likes, and he goes with the Falkens. Nuff said.
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Post by pre65 on Oct 26, 2014 16:12:24 GMT
Interesting comments Ali on your Pirelli experience. Never had any problems with the P6000 on the rear, even though they are now very near the limit.
I found a tyre survey and they rated the P7 top of the list, and the wet grip was the same as the Pilot sports I have on the front.
www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2010-European-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
At the moment Halfords Autocentres are offering the best price on P7, but I will ring ATS tomorrow. 
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Post by MartinT on Oct 26, 2014 16:46:54 GMT
I thought both Avon ZZ3 and Falken F452 very fine tyres, with my preference slightly for the Avons. The Goodyears better them only by a small amount, but it depends on what you can get for which price and it's different every time I need new tyres.
Steve - the problem is less with low profile tyres and more with runflats, which are generally horrible with a harsh ride and all the grip in snow equivalent to polished mirrors. It's why I gave up with runflats and went for normal tyres with two cans of Tyreweld in the boot. I informed my insurers, too, before anyone says anything.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Oct 26, 2014 17:37:15 GMT
Agree on the Avons and Falkens Martin.
Phil, dunno, just my personal experience, but strange that I've had the same problems on two different cars. It's like driving on a skating rink in the wet.
The Alfa was great on both Avons and the Falkens, and indeed all the other tyres that I'd had fitted in the past.
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Post by pre65 on Oct 27, 2014 10:07:28 GMT
My word, tyres can be complicated.
Been ringing round a few tyre dealers. Seems the Pirelli P7 can have different versions.
AO = Audi fit
MO = Mercedes fit
And the latest (preferred) option is the P7 Blue, which came 3rd in the 2014 Auto Express test.
www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-Auto-Express-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
I can't get through to Halfords to confirm which variant they stock. 
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Post by zippy on Oct 27, 2014 10:53:38 GMT
for a car, I've always been a Goodyear fan.
for a 4x4 then my current favourite is the Bridgstone Dueler
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 27, 2014 13:08:40 GMT
Working next to a tyre dealer for a few years was useful
Seems the established brands changed specs, some good became not so good, vice versa and some disappeared.
So best to start from scratch each time - a pain !
And when you choose that one goes out of stock or they don't make it anymore !
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Post by MartinT on Oct 27, 2014 13:13:15 GMT
Some strange models there, most seem to be low rolling resistance tyres. |
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Post by pre65 on Oct 27, 2014 18:29:49 GMT
Some strange models there, most seem to be low rolling resistance tyres. 
Drive slower, use less fuel and save the planet. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 27, 2014 18:33:51 GMT
When I get a battery car and have given up on enjoying driving ...although perhaps I should bring that moment forward knowing that the main M3 access roundabout in Basingstoke is having a dual carriageway built through it, taking about a year to complete, but that's not even the worst of it. They're wideing the M3 all the way from J2 to J4A, which will take 26 . . . months!!  |
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 27, 2014 18:59:53 GMT
I just put Dunlop cold weather tyers on.
Just sayin!
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Post by MartinT on Oct 27, 2014 19:30:48 GMT
I just put Dunlop cold weather tyers on. I looked at that option, but it's not cheap buying extra wheels and tyres and is a hassle. Moving from runflats gave me a fighting chance of driving through the snow. I also have a set of Autosocks should I get really stuck. |
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 27, 2014 20:10:12 GMT
I don't have new rims. Just pay £12 per tyre for changing them and keep the other set at the lockup.
Would be nice to have four spare rims but probably expensive. Vehicle is too modern for a plethora of rims at the scrappies.
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 27, 2014 20:11:49 GMT
Bear in mind it is winter when I am in most demand, and on cold snowy nights more so. tyres which go hard and are not pliable when temperature is below 5 degrees C not very safe at such times. I am only thinking of my safety.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 27, 2014 20:26:12 GMT
Agreed, Paul. However, another downside of low profile tyres (mine are 19": 225/35 fronts, 265/30 rears) is that you cannot put winter tyres on the rims, so it would require a separate high profile set of wheels.
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