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Post by bencat on Sept 20, 2024 23:05:02 GMT
Tobias mine is a wooden suspended floor with a porcelain tile floor layer on that .
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Post by bencat on Sept 21, 2024 9:40:19 GMT
Well probably no surprise to most on here but left my system playing the cascade file last night . Now I knew what this did for burning in electronics but it also works on mechanical items as well . The Aura,s have shown me that they need to settle so after a full night of repeat the sound has now breathed a huge with of relief and relaxed . Listening to the Huey Show on Six Music and despite this being less than CD quality it is just so easy to listen to . No thoughts of it might be less than great just too shockingly funky . I get a strong feeling these feet are staying put.
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Post by palace on Sept 21, 2024 11:04:38 GMT
Well probably no surprise to most on here but left my system playing the cascade file last night . Now I knew what this did for burning in electronics but it also works on mechanical items as well . The Aura,s have shown me that they need to settle so after a full night of repeat the sound has now breathed a huge with of relief and relaxed . Listening to the Huey Show on Six Music and despite this being less than CD quality it is just so easy to listen to . No thoughts of it might be less than great just too shockingly funky . I get a strong feeling these feet are staying put. bencat: I'm really pleased you finally have had success with the Auva 50's & that I was not blowing smoke (For Tobias: A reference to a curious 17th centaury to early Victorian belief that blowing Tobacco smoke up a drowned persons rectum would revive them???, the river Thames banks had dozens of "smoke bellows" in boxes on posts central London Embankment length). bencat what ever you do refrain from trying Auva 70's or god forbid the Auva 100's. John medium.com/@siobhan.oshea/tobacco-smoke-enema-a-popular-medical-procedure-in-the-18th-century-fa8938c59fbablog.sciencemuseum.org.uk/saving-lives-with-a-puff-of-smoke/ |
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Post by bencat on Sept 23, 2024 10:32:25 GMT
Well a few days now of the Auva,s in place and it would seem they have now fully settled and there is no change . Still really like what they do and they will not be getting taken out any time soon . I am resisting any thoughts of getting in the 100,s as if they show really improvements then I know I will have to get a set and the cost is a bitter pill to swallow at this time . Things will have improved by the start of November so will just live with what I have currently . Can not help myself but I have been thinking about what I would do with the 50,s if they are replaced . I could switch them over to my Linn Sara,s and get the uplift there . Or I could fit them to both my music system rack and my three way active rack which would hopefully give a musical boost to both systems . Have to try and keep this away from the front of my mind and just enjoy things as they are . One thing that is clear though all those years I would not buy Quad ESL 57 were a waste . The positioning and placement in my room would I am sure give purists and pendants a severe shock . Without hearing any music there are those who would swear that it just could not work , well from the first burst of music they would be proved wrong and presented instead with high quality music that just oozes in to the room and makes me smile . I would have liked to attend a social with others on here but there are two main issues firstly I am based in the Northwest and so quite a long way from the southern venues that are set up . Secondly my physical reaction to vinyl means I can not stay in the same room and listen which as many want to listen to vinyl makes it awkward and limiting to others which I would really hate .
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Post by bencat on Sept 24, 2024 11:52:03 GMT
So I am convinced that the Auva feet are a good thing and will be putting my money were my ears are and buying the 50,s to use under my Quads . Yes I accept that these are the cheapest of the range but at this time that is what I can afford and they do enough of a good job to make me buy them . I am going to the Maverick Show but my speaker set up is not really suitable for the Aura and the install would be less than ideal so not going to use them . I did speak to Stack and asked Josh if I could borrow a set of four 50,s to put under my mana rack . Stack have agreed and I will add them and list them in my equipment list which will printed and left for people to take away if they want to . Of course this will not give the full improvement of being used under speakers but it will give me some idea of what they will sound like under equipment . Will be interesting .
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Post by bencat on Oct 2, 2024 11:40:55 GMT
Having had the Auva feet fitted for quite a while and enjoying the sound I have been just relaxing . Now prior to fitting the feet I had spent quite a bit of time placing the speakers in my room . I had in the old set up what I heard as the best position . Yesterday I thought the feet have changed the sound so they need to be repositioned as well ? So started with the Quads as far away from the wall behind them as possible then slowly moved back a little at a time . This was done with the Quads facing head on . Once I got them to what for my ears was the best sound I then started with toe in . When I finished the toe in was pretty much the same as the original positions but I had advanced the speakers about four inches further in to the room . Things are now better than the original with a little more depth and soundstage being obvious . So if any of you have fitted the Auva,s then you might give your speaker positions a check as well .
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Post by palace on Oct 2, 2024 12:16:54 GMT
Having had the Auva feet fitted for quite a while and enjoying the sound I have been just relaxing . Now prior to fitting the feet I had spent quite a bit of time placing the speakers in my room . I had in the old set up what I heard as the best position . Yesterday I thought the feet have changed the sound so they need to be repositioned as well ? So started with the Quads as far away from the wall behind them as possible then slowly moved back a little at a time . This was done with the Quads facing head on . Once I got them to what for my ears was the best sound I then started with toe in . When I finished the toe in was pretty much the same as the original positions but I had advanced the speakers about four inches further in to the room . Things are now better than the original with a little more depth and soundstage being obvious . So if any of you have fitted the Auva,s then you might give your speaker positions a check as well . bencat: Great news, I did a similar thing recently though only with the left hand speaker I had the original position of the speaker stands on the floor marked with a Sharpie. From that reference semi-circles of appropriate sizes have been drawn on the laminate floor in various colours of ink to suit 50's, 70's & of course 100's. Seated in a central position I noticed last week the stereo image on a mono track was slightly right biased, I angled the left speaker towards me a few degrees by pivoting on the right front Auva 100 moving the left hand Auva 100 in a 2-3" arc. This centred the image, whether this was because 100's raise the Quads & stands a little more, so that on the right the room soft furniture is less absorbent or the left less reflective I have no idea & since it was easily resolved not worth pursuing. |
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Post by bencat on Oct 4, 2024 10:39:34 GMT
Sadly for the state of my mental health things do not seem to stay the same . I moved the speakers a few days ago and set them up as in my last post . I forgot that even with small moves the Auva feet can be disturbed and then settle again . It would seem now that I need to have another positioning saga with the toe in of the speakers so that will be my afternoon gone today but hopefully as the moved will be small then I will not need to disturb the feet too much .
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Post by mattspl on Oct 31, 2024 18:36:19 GMT
Sadly for the state of my mental health things do not seem to stay the same . I moved the speakers a few days ago and set them up as in my last post . I forgot that even with small moves the Auva feet can be disturbed and then settle again . It would seem now that I need to have another positioning saga with the toe in of the speakers so that will be my afternoon gone today but hopefully as the moved will be small then I will not need to disturb the feet too much . I have also had those moments driving me mad with speaker positioning. It seems that even being a couple of mm toe in/out wrong and you loose that magic |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 31, 2024 18:43:39 GMT
Thank goodness I got my speaker toe-in right on the 2nd attempt. It's no mean feat moving those buggers around.
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Post by palace on Nov 1, 2024 11:06:06 GMT
Sadly for the state of my mental health things do not seem to stay the same . I moved the speakers a few days ago and set them up as in my last post . I forgot that even with small moves the Auva feet can be disturbed and then settle again . It would seem now that I need to have another positioning saga with the toe in of the speakers so that will be my afternoon gone today but hopefully as the moved will be small then I will not need to disturb the feet too much . benncat I can't remember if you put threaded inserts in your speaker stands & fixed the 50's to them or you have the existing pointed feet in the holes on top of the Auva 50's. I had a query on another forum over the weekend, so I emailed Stack Audio re just slipping Auvas under a speaker, Josh reply included "use of the thread in the female divot of the Auva helps to stimulate the particles more swiftly" In my case if I gently slide my speakers/stands Auva 100's to one side on our laminated floor, it takes an LP side for them to resettle. The 4 x repurposed Auva 50's I use under my CD player have short stainless threading tightened in, then one of the supplied "thumb nuts" screwed on leaving it flat with no protruding thread. I did this as I noticed on Stack Audio diagrams the Auva EQ's also have internal threading/studding, The 50's also have 4mm sorbothane underneath to decouple them from the support surface. If this is not the case so be it, if it is then I may have a solution. |
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Post by bencat on Nov 1, 2024 11:56:39 GMT
Yes I decided that I needed to take the plunge and drill for inserts and the 50,s are screwed up right to the stands . My Quads are currently with Andrew Jones of a AQuadthing Audio for what will most likely last ever service in my possession so will need a full day when back making placement and then letting things settle . I am even less keen now to hear a set of 100 ,s as if they are really that good will have to get a set .
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Post by palace on Nov 1, 2024 15:03:31 GMT
Yes I decided that I needed to take the plunge and drill for inserts and the 50,s are screwed up right to the stands . My Quads are currently with Andrew Jones of a AQuadthing Audio for what will most likely last ever service in my possession so will need a full day when back making placement and then letting things settle . I am even less keen now to hear a set of 100 ,s as if they are really that good will have to get a set . bencat : Understood, really don't try the Auva 100's or indeed the Auva 70's ... let us know how the Quad 57's sound on their return, I have a vested interest now OTA who built my 57's are no more with Steve's demise, we used to speak on the phone every couple of months, I need a trusted alternative just in case... |
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Post by bencat on Nov 2, 2024 9:09:20 GMT
John OTA are still in my existence but Andrew in Leicester and Alan in the South are now the two engineers and repairers so depending where you are in the country you contact one or the other directly . Both did lots of work for Steve during his time at OTA and the standard of work is just as good . They are even going to start getting the Otec treble panel made again for those that liked what that did .
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Post by palace on Nov 2, 2024 10:02:03 GMT
John OTA are still in my existence but Andrew in Leicester and Alan in the South are now the two engineers and repairers so depending where you are in the country you contact one or the other directly . Both did lots of work for Steve during his time at OTA and the standard of work is just as good . They are even going to start getting the Otec treble panel made again for those that liked what that did . bencat : Thank you I am in London so Alan seem to be the one to contact do you have his details perchance... |
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Post by bencat on Nov 2, 2024 10:33:06 GMT
John will find details for you and post them but using my Tablet at the moment and have never found out how to copy and paste . However if you go to the aquadthingaudio.com website there are details on there to contact Alan .
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Post by bencat on Nov 2, 2024 10:45:27 GMT
Well a kind friend has lent me a set of speakers to use in my main system while my Quads are being serviced . They are a very small pair of Totem 1 stand mounts with some heavy Target stands . Wired them up when I got back Thursday and realised very quickly these had not been used for a while . So a couple of days with Cascade Burn in when They are much more open now .I believe these are quite expensive speakers and they do sound very good but again the portrayal of vocals compared to Quads is very noticeable . Bass is quite good as they are sealed baffle designs and being small they image well . Not really a fair comparison though and I miss my Quads but at least I have music . My wife is at work in Monday so will have a play by adding the Auva 50,s to the stands and see what difference that makes .
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Post by palace on Nov 2, 2024 11:36:16 GMT
John will find details for you and post them but using my Tablet at the moment and have never found out how to copy and paste . However if you go to the aquadthingaudio.com website there are details on there to contact Alan . bencat : Thank you looked at Website no address shown for the Banbury branch which is an hour or more closer than Leicester. but can phone Alan. |
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Post by bencat on Nov 3, 2024 9:07:31 GMT
Well Linda got it wrong and is working today not Monday . So while Linda is getting ready I installed the Auva 50,s under the Target Audio stands I had to use with the Totem 1 speakers I have borrowed . Well the screech treble when the feet are first installed after moving them is a real thing and less nice to listen with drivers than electrostatics . Settle time is much quicker than when new and after around half an hour things had settled . Well I can see why those using conventional drivers get all excited by these feet after they settle they allow them speakers to have better controlled bass with lots more texture . Soundstage is wider and deeper , voices sound real and coming from a mouth rather than a sort of indefinite area . These Totems while small are very nice sounding speakers and fill a medium size room very well . The combination of the Auva,s and Black Ravioli seems very positive .Ravioli keeps the speakers off the stands and Auva,s keep the stand from vibrating . Well worth the effort and I know by the end of today these will sound even better . I can easily live with this set of speakers till my Quads return .
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Post by bencat on Nov 4, 2024 13:17:42 GMT
As I think I knew but never take for granted a couple of days using Cascade has either settled in/burned in the Auva,s and them sound had become more subtle and refined . I keep noticing quiet back ground sounds that I had not noticed before . Bass is now very much tighter and there is no boom to it . Depth of texture to bass is also noticeable . I like the Auva,s and would say if you can get a loan try them out they work much more on standard box speakers than my Quads but they also improve those to a good degree too . I will now have to reign things in for the rest of this year and consider getting a trial of the 100,s next year because I fully expect them to be much better and I know I will have to buy a set .
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