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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2014 7:49:48 GMT
Mike, didn't Steve get hold of some Z-Plugs for your Exposure cables? Do you know where he sourced them from? Yep, and I see he is on the case......... Edit And a big improvement they were over the naff bananas - that made me think the cable was also of the same standard. I dare say Steve's soldering was better than mine would have been too ! |
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 24, 2014 8:29:53 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2014 8:54:15 GMT
Another thing Steve
The heatshrink you did for me makes for a nice tidy look.
Any other benefits ?
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Post by brian2957 on Sept 24, 2014 9:22:48 GMT
TBH with you I don't think those Z plugs would be adequate in this instance Steve . This is a very stiff and heavy guage coax cable . I really think something a bit more substantial is called for here . Some of the other plugs in your link look like they would be suitable . My advice would be to terminate these plugs once as they really are quite difficult to work with .
As an aside these are very possibly the best speaker cables I've ever had in my system and I've had a lot of speaker cables over the years. Equipment has also changed so synergy could be playing a part in this .
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Post by MartinT on Sept 24, 2014 10:00:14 GMT
Brian - I see that WHF reviewed Cable Talk 3 with Z-Plugs, see this photo:
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 24, 2014 10:30:11 GMT
That's exactly the combo I'm using at the moment ...
Just to be clear if anyone is looking for this cable it is simply called 'Talk 3', 'Cable Talk' being the older brand which is now defunct.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 10:37:34 GMT
I had thought about using the Chord Z plugs.
If it's good enough for their signature cable, it should be good enough for mine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 11:24:56 GMT
TBH with you I don't think those Z plugs would be adequate in this instance Steve . This is a very stiff and heavy guage coax cable . I really think something a bit more substantial is called for here . Some of the other plugs in your link look like they would be suitable . My advice would be to terminate these plugs once as they really are quite difficult to work with . As an aside these are very possibly the best speaker cables I've ever had in my system and I've had a lot of speaker cables over the years. Equipment has also changed so synergy could be playing a part in this . I am currently using those very same Z plugs at the speaker end, with no issues to report so far. |
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Post by brian2957 on Sept 24, 2014 11:58:02 GMT
Nice one . They're a very good price to be sure .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 15:17:48 GMT
I have also used the angled spades, with insulation before.
I tried the cheaper gold plated spades this time, and I am not taken with them. They seem far too soft and pliable for a goo contact.
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Post by brian2957 on Sept 24, 2014 16:25:45 GMT
Brian - I see that WHF reviewed Cable Talk 3 with Z-Plugs, see this photo:
That's the Cable Talk plugs I use Martin . They have 2 screws for tightening on to the cable . They're a bit more substantial than some of the Z plugs which have been linked to on this thread . Excellent plugs BTW . |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2014 16:32:23 GMT
Be interested to hear (of) a comparison between them and the ones I have, or similar
I had crap speaker cables for so long it's embarrassing. Plus I was working from front to end on upgrading so they came close to last
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Post by brian2957 on Sept 24, 2014 17:13:35 GMT
Can't help you there Mike . I was using Talk 3 and was very happy with it . The Belden coax just takes things to another level . It's making sense of tracks which were previously a bit of a mess .
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Post by MartinT on Sept 24, 2014 17:41:57 GMT
The business end of Z-Plugs is the same, so provided the cable is effectively attached then the benefit remains of extremely good contact with the mating socket.
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 24, 2014 18:01:18 GMT
Yes the whole thing about Zplugs is the curl has to be thin enough and resilient enough to make a tight push fit - thicker walled won't work in that way.
Strong enough to support a cable that is max size to be soldered in they certainly are. The rest you are paying for is fancy looking covers which will do no better job than the solder / cable itself as stiff enough, heatshrink gives colour coding and a little further stiffness - you pays your money...
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2014 20:12:50 GMT
Can't help you there Mike . I was using Talk 3 and was very happy with it . The Belden coax just takes things to another level . It's making sense of tracks which were previously a bit of a mess . Well I have my Exposure cables with cheapo Z plugs to test next time I go a visiting |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2014 20:14:11 GMT
The business end of Z-Plugs is the same, so provided the cable is effectively attached then the benefit remains of extremely good contact with the mating socket. What about the material used, some giving less resistance and/or smoother flow of 'things' |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 24, 2014 20:15:43 GMT
Yes the whole thing about Zplugs is the curl has to be thin enough and resilient enough to make a tight push fit - thicker walled won't work in that way. Strong enough to support a cable that is max size to be soldered in they certainly are. The rest you are paying for is fancy looking covers which will do no better job than the solder / cable itself as stiff enough, heatshrink gives colour coding and a little further stiffness - you pays your money... The tight fit is a great trade mark for the Z plugs. So much better than the knackered old bananas I had. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 24, 2014 21:49:37 GMT
The material seems less important than the security of contact. I've only seen gold plated ones on cables.
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 24, 2014 22:02:41 GMT
Wot Martin said  |
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