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Post by jandl100 on Jan 27, 2021 23:30:16 GMT
Lack of bass again. That's interesting. I can't say I've noticed that in my Bluetooth setup.
I guess it might be a little leaner and tauter, but not much in it at all. Bass sounds extremely good, but then I'm not really into bassy or bass-led music.
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Post by John on Jan 28, 2021 4:31:40 GMT
Streaming FLAC from my Samsung Tablet at 96 Khz using BlackPlayer is not as good as streaming Radio Paradise FLAC from the tablet or my phone. Neither are as good as via USB from my Asus Tinkerboard. Loss of bass is the main difference, echoing Clive's finding. But, for "casual" listening, RP over BT is perfectly fine. Playing with bit rate in developer options can have a impact in sound quality IF LDAC YouTube 88.2/24 Best audio Spotify 44.1/16 Best audio Like Jerry I am not getting bass loss Please try and report back as it might also help. Be interesting to see if you can improve sound quality. |
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Post by Clive on Jan 28, 2021 9:11:56 GMT
Putting the bass loss I experienced into perspective...my 4 x 15 inch active bass drivers are driven by powerful amps with their own volume controls with detents. To compensate for the drop off I needed to move the volume knobs by 1 detent, the minimum increase possible which at the same time makes a noticeable difference.
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Post by John on Jan 28, 2021 12:28:27 GMT
Yes handy being active Clive
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Post by alp on Jan 28, 2021 19:38:44 GMT
Streaming FLAC from my Samsung Tablet at 96 Khz using BlackPlayer is not as good as streaming Radio Paradise FLAC from the tablet or my phone. Neither are as good as via USB from my Asus Tinkerboard. Loss of bass is the main difference, echoing Clive's finding. But, for "casual" listening, RP over BT is perfectly fine. Playing with bit rate in developer options can have a impact in sound quality IF LDAC YouTube 88.2/24 Best audio Spotify 44.1/16 Best audio Like Jerry I am not getting bass loss Please try and report back as it might also help. Be interesting to see if you can improve sound quality. Ok, good point. I am using LDAC so can change it easily. Most of my material is 44.1k only. I'll try over the weekend. |
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Post by andrewrona on Jan 29, 2021 6:09:47 GMT
Playing with bit rate in developer options can have a impact in sound quality IF LDAC YouTube 88.2/24 Best audio Spotify 44.1/16 Best audio Like Jerry I am not getting bass loss Please try and report back as it might also help. Be interesting to see if you can improve sound quality. Ok, good point. I am using LDAC so can change it easily. Most of my material is 44.1k only. I'll try over the weekend. I wonder if the BT5 receiver needs more burn in time to open up? These devices are quite cheap some BT5 receiver rolling my prove interesting! What entry level tablet do you all recommend, thanks for the great thread. |
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Post by John on Jan 29, 2021 6:18:09 GMT
I did not get any burn in so not sure why Jerry and myself do not get the same issue
My friend is using a Lenova M8 which you can get for under £100 I tried a M10 and that did not work I use a Samsung Galaxy A8 without issue
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Post by Bonky on Feb 2, 2021 18:41:40 GMT
Hi all, again, I'm following this with interest.
Would anyone like to recommend a good BT5 receiver but without a built-in DAC?
I have a 'spare' USB input on my Beresford DAC - but probably I won't get a BT receiver with USB .
My dilemma:
1. Buy a BT5 receiver and hook it up to my present system.
2. Buy a Gustard x16 with built in BT; sell the Beresford
3. Buy the new Cambridge M200 DAC when it come out later this month - and sell the Beresford.
4. Buy the iFi Zen.
5. Leave things as they are - the Apple airplay seems to be working OK at present - for background music.
Any advice?
Thanks,
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 2, 2021 19:09:03 GMT
I'm afraid that the BT5 receiver that myself and Clive bought is no longer available on AliExpress and I couldn't find an alternative but there may be one with further investigation.
The Gustard looks great value to me but I'm wondering if it's better to have a separate BT receiver that can be cheaply replaced as standards and codecs change.
I don't think the iFi Zen would be much if any of an upgrade for you. Personally I have always found their products to be way over hyped in the press.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 2, 2021 19:21:42 GMT
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Post by John on Feb 2, 2021 19:25:52 GMT
Stay away from the Zen it is not very good
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Post by John on Feb 2, 2021 19:26:39 GMT
I don't think the iFi Zen would be much if any of an upgrade for you. Personally I have always found their products to be way over hyped in the press. Agree |
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Post by Clive on Feb 2, 2021 19:39:59 GMT
I'm afraid that the BT5 receiver that myself and Clive bought is no longer available on AliExpress and I couldn't find an alternative but there may be one with further investigation. The Gustard looks great value to me but I'm wondering if it's better to have a separate BT receiver that can be cheaply replaced as standards and codecs change. I don't think the iFi Zen would be much if any of an upgrade for you. Personally I have always found their products to be way over hyped in the press. I see it’s not available...I got my 2nd one just in time. I expect there are others. re iFi, a lot of their innovative early designs came from one designer...he’s since departed having set up a recording studio. |
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Post by John on Feb 2, 2021 19:40:09 GMT
Just do a search for search for CSR8675 Bluetooth 5.0 24Bit/96K Digital Audio Receiver Aptx Aptx-HD LDAC Hifi Coaxial Optical SPDIF Wireless Adapter on AliExpress
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 2, 2021 19:44:05 GMT
I'm afraid that the BT5 receiver that myself and Clive bought is no longer available on AliExpress and I couldn't find an alternative but there may be one with further investigation. The Gustard looks great value to me but I'm wondering if it's better to have a separate BT receiver that can be cheaply replaced as standards and codecs change. I don't think the iFi Zen would be much if any of an upgrade for you. Personally I have always found their products to be way over hyped in the press. I see it’s not available...I got my 2nd one just in time. I expect there are others. re iFi, a lot of their innovative early designs came from one designer...he’s since departed having set up a recording studio. Seems to be back in stock again - ￡25.73 20%OFF | CSR8675 Bluetooth 5.0 24Bit/96K Digital Audio Receiver Aptx Aptx-HD LDAC Hifi Coaxial Optical SPDIF Wireless Adapter a.aliexpress.com/_AMzsOe |
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Post by Bonky on Feb 2, 2021 19:47:06 GMT
Thank you everyone; very informative.
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Post by alp on Feb 5, 2021 19:54:52 GMT
Streaming FLAC from my Samsung Tablet at 96 Khz using BlackPlayer is not as good as streaming Radio Paradise FLAC from the tablet or my phone. Neither are as good as via USB from my Asus Tinkerboard. Loss of bass is the main difference, echoing Clive's finding. But, for "casual" listening, RP over BT is perfectly fine. Playing with bit rate in developer options can have a impact in sound quality IF LDAC YouTube 88.2/24 Best audio Spotify 44.1/16 Best audio Like Jerry I am not getting bass loss Please try and report back as it might also help. Be interesting to see if you can improve sound quality. I have had a play around with this on my Samsung S10+ and A6 Tablet. It definitely sounds much better when set to 44.1 for Radio Paradise, Spotify and 44.1 files. However, if it its a 96K file it then stays at 96K. The tablet sounds very good (faster SD Card?) and better than the phone, although BT version etc. are the same. I have to reset the setting on the tablet/phone each time I connect to the DAC, which is annoying. |
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2021 20:09:44 GMT
Yes agree about having to reset it as it defaults back each time
Also do try balanced audio in Developer Options this also takes it up another notch
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Post by alp on Feb 5, 2021 21:37:19 GMT
I forgot to mention that I used the Optimum Audio Quality setting, but that's where my phone struggled. The tablet was fine, though, better than files streamed from LMS on my NAS, probably because it avoids a WiFi hop and then USB through my ATB, reclocker etc., just file-player-BT-DAC
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Post by John on Feb 13, 2021 6:37:38 GMT
A short video going through the settings with LDAC
I would suggest you find what works for your set up as might be different to my experience
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