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Post by rfan8312 on Aug 23, 2024 11:13:56 GMT
Sounds amazing man. I hope one day to find a full day showing of all of the LOTR films.
The new Gladiator looks really cool but including Denzel seems strange because he seems to be the only one who talks like we do in modern times.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 23, 2024 13:47:55 GMT
I must admit that I wasn't a huge fan of the original Gladiator, so G2 holds very little attraction for me. Gladiator (I thought) was a huge on spectacle, which was fine, but overly romanticised, with plot holes you could drive a chariot through. Maybe it was just the lack of explosions, which are very difficult to justify in that era, unless the story is set in China, perhaps?  Tim, WTF is going on with Megalopolis?  I know you're keen to see if it's a triumph, or not, but Lionsgate isn't helping matters by faking reviews on the latest trailer for it. I genuinely hope it's magnificent, and a huge success for Coppola, and not his "Popeye," or his "Jack". Oh. Wait, Forget I mentioned "Jack". |
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Post by Tim on Aug 24, 2024 8:28:04 GMT
It does seem to be a bit of a cluster . . . or is it a marketing ploy to get a lot of exposure, without spending too much money?
I'll go and see it, but I don't think it'll do particularly well, looks a bit too high brow and complex for a mainstream audience. I think many people have lost the skill of being able to watch films without a very clear narrative and neatly tied off ending. I don't blame that on the audience either, it's studio interference and not trusting an audiences intelligence anymore. People have got so used to not thinking whilst watching a film, they either now don't want to do it, or can't. They've become too reliant on massive exposition dumps or worse still, I know younger friends who have to check a wiki on their phone to try and work out what's going on . . even for a simple Netflix film!
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Post by Slinger on Aug 24, 2024 13:09:15 GMT
It does seem to be a bit of a cluster . . . or is it a marketing ploy to get a lot of exposure, without spending too much money? I'll go and see it, but I don't think it'll do particularly well, looks a bit too high brow and complex for a mainstream audience. I think many people have lost the skill of being able to watch films without a very clear narrative and neatly tied off ending. I don't blame that on the audience either, it's studio interference and not trusting an audiences intelligence anymore. People have got so used to not thinking whilst watching a film, they either now don't want to do it, or can't. They've become too reliant on massive exposition dumps or worse still, I know younger friends who have to check a wiki on their phone to try and work out what's going on . . even for a simple Netflix film! With me, it was the loss of my wife. We loved watching films together and were almost like (if it's not too schmalzy) two halves of the same person, sharing thoughts and comments etc. as the film progressed. Nowadays I find my attention wandering and simply can't be bothered; there is little joy for me in watching films with complex and esoteric plots alone. It's why I enjoy the MCU movies (although I always have, actually) because they require very little effort on my part but provide humour, and spectacle. If I suddenly get the urge to do something else while I'm watching (my fingers tend to gravitate towards my Chromebook), well, I'm hardly likely to miss the plot point that defines the whole movie, am I? |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 24, 2024 15:22:40 GMT
I am alone tomorrow and have scoured the local Vue and Odeon for something to watch.
Eliminating the Marvel films, and kiddie stuff, I have these possibilities:
Alien: Romulus
Trap
Borderlands
Twisters
Blink Twice
It Ends With Us (warning: contains Blake Lively)
Hmm, looking at that, it's going to be the Alien. Any others recommendable?
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Post by Slinger on Aug 24, 2024 15:54:56 GMT
Avoid "Borderlands," you will hate it. My choice would be Alien.
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Post by rfan8312 on Aug 24, 2024 15:57:42 GMT
Twisters has some heart and soul to it. A fun film that I found worth the time to watch it.
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Post by Tim on Aug 24, 2024 16:52:15 GMT
Alien: Romulus Trap Borderlands Twisters Blink Twice It Ends With Us (warning: contains Blake Lively) Does the car need an oil change?
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Post by MartinT on Aug 24, 2024 17:07:11 GMT
Alien: Romulus it is then, Tim  |
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Post by Tim on Aug 24, 2024 17:18:30 GMT
If somebody said I absolutely had to pick one of those, then I guess it would have to be A:R - but that's a terrible crop of films and Slinger is right, Borderlands would be right at the bottom!
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Post by MartinT on Aug 25, 2024 17:55:41 GMT
Where do I start? Fede Alvarez is no Ridley Scott or even James Cameron. He is leagues away in terms of their vision, sweep and directorial tightness. The soundtrack was the first thing to disappoint me, it's all crash-bang Hollywood with none of the mystery of the Alien soundtrack. Secondly, the almost total lack of continuity was incredibly jarring, together with the dodgy script. It's a mess and I found myself going back in memory trying to work out what I had just heard while the next scene was playing out. The story doesn't hold tight because of this discontinuous nature and the poor script. As for the cast of mostly teens, they do not have the acting chops to be truly believable or attempt to raise this mess to a higher level. And it is a right mess, for instance how many jump scares does Alvarez feel is required in one film? Does he not have anything else in his arsenal as it becomes extremely tiresome after a while. The total lack of suspense and the lack of explanation for this space station in a decaying orbit with W-Y research onboard, doesn't build up to anything worth following and I was bored with the whole thing by half-way through.
In short, the film is a travesty of the Alien franchise and a complete waste of two hours of my life.
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Post by rfan8312 on Aug 25, 2024 20:55:26 GMT
Sorry to hear this Martin. A lot of people are saying they saw this film in a very different way on their second viewing. I've seen it once in theaters and another 2 times in good picture quality on my phone.
I watched Predators last night and if I had to put in order from best to worst these 3 films Romulus, Predators, AvP then I'd have to go AvP, Romulus, Predators.
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Post by Tim on Aug 26, 2024 0:00:37 GMT
Where do I start? Fede Alvarez is no Ridley Scott or even James Cameron. He is leagues away in terms of their vision, sweep and directorial tightness. The soundtrack was the first thing to disappoint me, it's all crash-bang Hollywood with none of the mystery of the Alien soundtrack. Secondly, the almost total lack of continuity was incredibly jarring, together with the dodgy script. It's a mess and I found myself going back in memory trying to work out what I had just heard while the next scene was playing out. The story doesn't hold tight because of this discontinuous nature and the poor script. As for the cast of mostly teens, they do not have the acting chops to be truly believable or attempt to raise this mess to a higher level. And it is a right mess, for instance how many jump scares does Alvarez feel is required in one film? Does he not have anything else in his arsenal as it becomes extremely tiresome after a while. The total lack of suspense and the lack of explanation for this space station in a decaying orbit with W-Y research onboard, doesn't build up to anything worth following and I was bored with the whole thing by half-way through. In short, the film is a travesty of the Alien franchise and a complete waste of two hours of my life. And that is why I absolutely refuse to watch it. I don't think, well I know, it's not all down to Fede Alvarez though, he's on a very tight leash from the studio, which is why it's such a mish mash of greatest hits from the first films and such an incoherent story. A level of understanding of what Disney is about right now and it's clear why it's such a mess. They have virtually no artistic talent there anymore and it's really starting to show. Sorry to hear you disliked it, but also really pleased in some ways. The franchise needs to be put away now, the world doesn't need any more Alien films, they're just undermining the worth of the first two. |
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Post by rfan8312 on Aug 26, 2024 0:17:09 GMT
Can't agree Tim. I would dislike it very much if they stopped trying to make these films. I loved both Prometheus and Covenant a lot for the pieces each one got right regardless that they werent perfect from start to finish. I rewatched Covenant the other night and my heart was pounding by the time they got to the medlab scene.
The only one that's perfect is Alien. I never rewatch Aliens. It's too dated. The first battle with the xenos the music is mind numbing and the first xeno that becomes visible is terrible. Its an animatronic puppet that needs WD40. Hudson is a joke he pisses his pants at the first sign of trouble and he's supposed to be a colonial marine. Theres an alien infestation and they sent like 8 people + Paul Reiser to take care of it. Everytime Vasquez makes a quip she gets a high five. Alien has aged perfectly. Aliens feels like an 80's romp.
Romulus has its positive qualities as well. The visuals, the tone, and Andy is excellent and Spaeny was no slouch.
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Post by Tim on Aug 26, 2024 20:06:42 GMT
This one's just for MartinT . . . so best not look Robert 
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2024 20:30:21 GMT
"mindless action" seems to cover it for me.
Alien and, at a push, Aliens, are it for me.
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Post by Tim on Aug 26, 2024 21:35:29 GMT
Yup, just two |
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Post by rfan8312 on Aug 26, 2024 21:57:52 GMT
Guys, Covenant and Prometheus are gems. Both may have more horror in them than the rest of the franchise combined. Though, of course, Alien is the crown jewel.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 27, 2024 4:29:22 GMT
Guys, Covenant and Prometheus are gems. I'll give you that they are better than Alien 3 and the rest. At least they do create an atmosphere. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2024 7:35:06 GMT
We found Prometheus very disappointing
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