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Post by MartinT on May 23, 2024 17:42:31 GMT
I'm not going to say what I want to, as I don't want to offend anyone!
So I'll leave it to Mark . . .
Fantastic! That really sums up concisely what I think of this kind of mindless drivel. |
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Post by julesd68 on May 23, 2024 20:39:46 GMT
Thanks for making my point for me, Jules.  No attempt at cogent or coherent argument as to why you dislike 33 films you've almost certainly never seen, just (if I may borrow a Teenage Fanclub album title) a single simple, vacuous, bandwagonesque syllable.  Delighted to oblige, Sir!  |
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Post by Tim on May 23, 2024 21:17:14 GMT
I'll give you some bandwagonesque syllables tomorrow Paul, but right now I'm about to hit play on The Evil Dead . . . the proper one  |
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Post by rfan8312 on May 25, 2024 22:29:35 GMT
I'm here to defend the film Battleship (2011). I've heard slander here about this film.
I swear that this film is a fun romp. Extended broad daylight looks at alien weaponry at battle with our world's navies during a surprise attack during an annual navy skills/maneuvers competition out at sea.
It's mindless fun, but what this film got right was how much of the alien technology is shown in action. Some of it is staggering to witness. Peter Berg is the director and I think this film is an achievement.
Take a look at what our navy is up against here. And this isn't the worst of what these aliens have in their arsenal.
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Post by MartinT on May 25, 2024 22:49:59 GMT
Sorry, Robert, but I actually saw that film. The reasons why elude me now, but I must have been having a psychotic episode.
It's hard to think of anything even now that beats it on any scale of ridicule you care to use. If negative stars existed, I'd give it some.
I've just looked back into IMDB and I gave it a 1/10 at the time. I was being generous.
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Post by rfan8312 on May 25, 2024 22:58:08 GMT
Martin, if you have any time to kill at any point this week, can you tell me that that clip above is not a thrill to see? I mean isolated from the film, just that scene itself.
This film is a string of thrills. If you can see that way, you might enjoy it. Though maybe not. It wouldn't be fair for me to try to force it on anyone if they say they genuinely don't like it.
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Post by Tim on May 26, 2024 0:10:05 GMT
Not every film has to be in black and white, with subtitles, and require at least a Doctorate in psychology and 5 visits to the cinema to fully understand it before one can actually "enjoy" it. Actually for people who watch and enjoy that type of cinema, I’d say yes, mostly they do. I’m surprised you’d think otherwise or that someone (like me) who enjoys that kind of cinema, would think Marvel isn’t anything other than mindless drivel . . . it’s illogical? But likewise, I wouldn’t expect a Marvel fan to enjoy that kind of cinema either, they're not really interchangeable.
I was going to expand a bit more, but I don't really have the energy . . . you love Marvel, I don't - not much more to say really.
Oh, and before red carding me saying how can you denigrate an entire studios output if you haven't seen any of it, well so far I've ‘attempted’ 16 Marvel films. Hard to be accurate as most are instantly forgotten, but I believe I’ve started 16, finished 7 and only thought 1 wasn’t complete garbage, which was Guardians of the Galaxy (2014).
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Post by rfan8312 on May 26, 2024 1:21:35 GMT
Sorry Tim. I adored Goodnight and Goodluck as much as I loved Thor: Ragnarok, for very different reasons. I found The Lighthouse to be as much of a drug as I did Battleship. But for completely different reasons. Liking Marvel doest make anyone any less sophisticated or intelligent. It just means they have more capacity. 🫱🫲 🤝 |
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Post by John on May 26, 2024 9:26:07 GMT
I can enjoy some of the Marvel films, some are awful. I can enjoy art house, but some can bore me.
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Post by MartinT on May 26, 2024 10:42:01 GMT
Martin, if you have any time to kill at any point this week, can you tell me that that clip above is not a thrill to see? I mean isolated from the film, just that scene itself. The thing is, Robert, we all like different films and I'm not into insulting others' tastes. Let's just say that it isn't my kind of entertainment. I need a more cerebral experience and visual effects alone rarely do it for me. Here's a scene where dialogue is everything and there is no action. It's worth playing it several times. This is powerful beyond belief. A Mexican cartel boss tells the Counselor that it is too late for him. |
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Post by Slinger on May 26, 2024 13:18:49 GMT
Not every film has to be in black and white, with subtitles, and require at least a Doctorate in psychology and 5 visits to the cinema to fully understand it before one can actually "enjoy" it. Actually for people who watch and enjoy that type of cinema, I’d say yes, mostly they do. I’m surprised you’d think otherwise or that someone (like me) who enjoys that kind of cinema, would think Marvel isn’t anything other than mindless drivel . . . it’s illogical? But likewise, I wouldn’t expect a Marvel fan to enjoy that kind of cinema either, they're not really interchangeable.
They are interchangeable, and hopefully I'm living proof of that. I've watched my share of Bergman, Kurosawa, Antonioni, Tarkovsky, and (would you include) David Lynch (among the "Arthouuse" group?) You enjoyed "Guardians Of The Galaxy," as did I, so you've sort of disproved your own point, and some people can enjoy both, even if one form or the other is of minority interest. I was going to expand a bit more, but I don't really have the energy . . . you love Marvel, I don't - not much more to say really.
Fair enough, but my point was that there is room for both "styles" of cinema. Oh, and before red carding me saying how can you denigrate an entire studios output if you haven't seen any of it, well so far I've ‘attempted’ 16 Marvel films. Hard to be accurate as most are instantly forgotten, but I believe I’ve started 16, finished 7 and only thought 1 wasn’t complete garbage, which was Guardians of the Galaxy (2014). Obviously my comments were not aimed at you then. Because, in this one short post you've gone from describing the entire Marvel oeuvre as "mindless drivel," to telling me about the one that wasn't. See, we actually agree, no matter how hard we try not to.  P.S. And we're both Mark Kermode fans. |
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Post by rfan8312 on May 26, 2024 16:02:47 GMT
Martin, if you have any time to kill at any point this week, can you tell me that that clip above is not a thrill to see? I mean isolated from the film, just that scene itself. The thing is, Robert, we all like different films and I'm not into insulting others' tastes. Let's just say that it isn't my kind of entertainment. I need a more cerebral experience and visual effects alone rarely do it for me. Here's a scene where dialogue is everything and there is no action. It's worth playing it several times. This is powerful beyond belief. A Mexican cartel boss tells the Counselor that it is too late for him. Fair enough, Martin. Yes I saw that movie and am still devastated by it. |
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Post by Slinger on May 27, 2024 17:08:42 GMT
I thought that this was a good article, and a bit scary too.
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Post by speedysteve on May 28, 2024 6:54:09 GMT
Family movie night on Saturday.
First time in the Home Theatre room.
Our daughters created a WhatApp chat group with just myself and they to help coordinate.
Guess what they named it?
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"I wouldn't trust you as far as Eastbourne"
Yes, that is a line I've have been known to use on them when deemed necessary:)
Nice to know it struck a chord!
Anyway, it's their choice as to what to watch this time! I'll let you know if it turns out to be 'Remarkable'
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Post by MartinT on May 29, 2024 17:06:18 GMT
I couldn't resist another scene from The Counselor. Cameron Diaz in the best part I've ever seen her play, a complete sociopath. Final scene. Feel yourself shrivelling under her gaze.
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Post by rfan8312 on May 30, 2024 3:03:25 GMT
Very cool. As weird as it is, The Counselor was so jarring to me that I've thought of it often but have felt an almost low level fear to see it again. Though I will.
Random note: Jesse Plemmons' performance in Civil War has reminded me that somewhere I heard that a great actor can display what suppressing an emotion looks like.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 27, 2024 9:51:25 GMT
This new version of Nosferatu looks good fun.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2024 15:21:16 GMT
Did you ever see the Werner Herzog/Klaus Kinski version, Jules? Popol Vuh provided the (modern) music, Herzog filmed two " versions" in so much as every scene with dialogue he shot twice, once in German and once in English. Shadow Of The Vampire is another one that's worth a watch (imo). The cast includes John Malkovich, Willem Dafoe, Udo Kier, Cary Elwes, Catherine McCormack, and Eddie Izzard, who is actually damn good in it. Basically it's about the filming of the original Nosferatu-Eine Symphonie des Grauens (Nosferatu-a Symphony of Horror) - 1922, Dir. F.W. Murnau, starring Max Schreck - and how Max starts taking things seriously. Obviously there's more to it than that, but spoliers. Apparently, during the filming of the original weird shit happened, like crew members disappearing, or dying, and this film plays on that too. |
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Post by rfan8312 on Jul 26, 2024 15:45:06 GMT
Going to see Deadpool & Wolverine tonight. Something tells me that this is the one that turns the Artsy Fartsy crowd into believers.
...Now we wait.
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Post by Tim on Jul 28, 2024 17:58:38 GMT
Going to see Deadpool & Wolverine tonight. Something tells me that this is the one that turns the Artsy Fartsy crowd into believers. ...Now we wait.  |
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