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Post by pinkie on Jul 17, 2014 9:03:25 GMT
Not sure what my profession as to do with it , however , there is no logic in it . You can not be a member of a forum - 1] where there is a time delay on your posts - threads move quickly by the time approval is gained , it may be irrelevant , out of context or just daft . 2] The apriori vetting of a post is an unacceptable restriction on free speech and undermines the whole ethos you set for the forum , how does anybody know you are being fare , reasonable and even handed. (question mark?) Who wants to read RD's posts that have your approval !!? Nobody in their right mind would tolerate such restrictions . Have you read 1984? You're going to have to have words with that secretary of yours again DQ. I hope she's totty cos her error count is rising by the minute. It guess its the strain and worry  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 9:04:38 GMT
Can I say that although Richard pushes the limits there are others that come on this forum with I believe the sole purpose of escalating conflict with the man. Mostly people that I have had issues with personally in the past. I believe these members should look at their behaviour and realise that elsewhere they may have shared the same fate. I believe the mods are doing a good job of containing the trade and those who try to promote certain products. We have seen a couple of them flounce off so the mods must be doing something right. Also remember that the past actions of others in relation to NVA products can't be easily overlooked by Richard and this explains in part his reaction to some people. Perhaps if some could stop circular arguments when it has been proven that they are wrong and be accepting of factual information might form a starting point for harmony to break out.
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 17, 2014 9:10:34 GMT
Not sure what misssion as to do with it , however , there is no logic in it . You can not be a member of a forum - 1] where there is a time delay on your posts - threads move quickly by the time approval is gained , it may be irrelevant , out of context or just daft . 2] The apriori vetting of a post is an unacceptable restriction on free speech and undermines the whole ethos you set for the forum , how does anybody know you are being fare , reasonable and even handed. Who wants to read RD's posts that have your approval !!? Nobody in their right mind would tolerate such restrictions . Have you read 1984? Well leave the forum then. Again, you are labouring under the misapprehension that this is a democracy. The rules are what the forum owners say they are. If you don't like it, go eelsewhere. |
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Post by pre65 on Jul 17, 2014 9:12:09 GMT
Sometime the "factual" part of Richards posts is more like "how I see things" which is not the same at all. And, speaking of " a dog gnawing a bone", that is Richard if he thinks his version of right is not being accepted. |
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 9:12:14 GMT
Not sure what misssion as to do with it , however , there is no logic in it . You can not be a member of a forum - 1] where there is a time delay on your posts - threads move quickly by the time approval is gained , it may be irrelevant , out of context or just daft . 2] The apriori vetting of a post is an unacceptable restriction on free speech and undermines the whole ethos you set for the forum , how does anybody know you are being fare , reasonable and even handed. Who wants to read RD's posts that have your approval !!? Nobody in their right mind would tolerate such restrictions . Have you read 1984? Well leave the forum then. Again, you are labouring under the misapprehension that this is a democracy. The rules are what the forum owners say they are. If you don't like it, go eelsewhere. Are you under 16 ? Do you have a GCSE in english and comprehension yet ? [nb. mods this is a legitmate question in the contest of his retorts to me ] |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 17, 2014 9:13:44 GMT
LOL, might ask you the same question.
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Post by walpurgis on Jul 17, 2014 9:22:06 GMT
Well, this thread seems to have arrived where it was heading. Time to close it and get on with normality I reckon.
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Post by pre65 on Jul 17, 2014 9:23:39 GMT
Well, this thread seems to have arrived where it was heading. Time to close it and get on with normality I reckon. Sounds like a good idea. |
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 9:24:00 GMT
It should have never been opened , i am beginning to think it was orchestrated as what would happen was easily predicted . Experienced forum moderators open a new forum with a clear vision and ethos which they are determined to uphold given their previous experience of other forums , suddenly without rhyme or reason they ask members how the forum should be moderated  What better way to promote your new forum than open a bear pit ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 9:29:56 GMT
Sometime the "factual" part of Richards posts is more like "how I see things" which is not the same at all. And, speaking of " a dog gnawing a bone", that is Richard if he thinks his version of right is not being accepted. To be honest I do take the trouble to check most of Richard's technical claims and he is always right. He isn't trying to stop you building kit with LDR but just wants you to do so in the knowledge it is illegal (irrespective of EU officials ignoring their own rules). |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 17, 2014 9:33:47 GMT
RD was given many opportunities to tone down his invective. He even re-posted PM material that I had removed, in an attempt to have more membership read it. That action alone would constitute a ban in many other forums. We have been more than tolerant and the discussion is over. WHAT!!!!! that is complete ***** lies - show proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MODERATION: the post was here, now removed. I was quite clear about what you were doing.
PM means I used your PM system to repost things to members you deleted - THAT IS A PACK OF LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MODERATION: Nope, 'PM' is a generic for Private Messages, and what you appeared to post (though I cannot verify it) was a private message from Marco to you at some unknown time. I had already made it clear that we didn't want any private messages between parties posted here. That is what the word 'private' means.
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Post by pinkie on Jul 17, 2014 9:41:04 GMT
Sometime the "factual" part of Richards posts is more like "how I see things" which is not the same at all. And, speaking of " a dog gnawing a bone", that is Richard if he thinks his version of right is not being accepted. To be honest I do take the trouble to check most of Richard's technical claims and he is always right. He isn't trying to stop you building kit with LDR but just wants you to do so in the knowledge it is illegal (irrespective of EU officials ignoring their own rules). I'll PM you Paul. |
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Post by pre65 on Jul 17, 2014 10:05:11 GMT
In my opinion PMs (private messages) are PRIVATE and anyone who posts the contents in public view (without the sender's consent) is beyond contempt.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 10:08:57 GMT
It should have never been opened , i am beginning to think it was orchestrated as what would happen was easily predicted . Experienced forum moderators open a new forum with a clear vision and ethos which they are determined to uphold given their previous experience of other forums , suddenly without rhyme or reason they ask members how the forum should be moderated It's interesting that you now change tack, DQ. You were perfectly happy to have your (copious) say on this very thread. You now think we shouldn't have asked for feedback?
There's no harm in asking for membership feedback and we've appreciated the responses.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 10:09:39 GMT
In my opinion PMs (private messages) are PRIVATE and anyone who posts the contents in public view (without the sender's consent) is beyond contempt.In my opinion if you say something in a pm that is abhorent , illegal or threatening then the best retort is to make it public . This is real life not the catholic church . |
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 10:11:31 GMT
It should have never been opened , i am beginning to think it was orchestrated as what would happen was easily predicted . Experienced forum moderators open a new forum with a clear vision and ethos which they are determined to uphold given their previous experience of other forums , suddenly without rhyme or reason they ask members how the forum should be moderated It's interesting that you now change tack, DQ. You were perfectly happy to have your (copious) say on this very thread. You now think we shouldn't have asked for feedback?
There's no harm in asking for membership feedback and we've appreciated the responses.
I think you will find i joined in very late , made two brilliant posts and then left it alone till it became a RD versus the rest bear pit . |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 10:12:31 GMT
Sometime the "factual" part of Richards posts is more like "how I see things" which is not the same at all. And, speaking of " a dog gnawing a bone", that is Richard if he thinks his version of right is not being accepted. To be honest I do take the trouble to check most of Richard's technical claims and he is always right. Speaking personally, I have always found Richard's technical input to be most valuable. |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 17, 2014 10:51:03 GMT
Not sure what my profession as to do with it , however , there is no logic in it . You can not be a member of a forum - 1] where there is a time delay on your posts - threads move quickly by the time approval is gained , it may be irrelevant , out of context or just daft . 2] The apriori vetting of a post is an unacceptable restriction on free speech and undermines the whole ethos you set for the forum , how does anybody know you are being fare , reasonable and even handed. (question mark?) Who wants to read RD's posts that have your approval !!? Nobody in their right mind would tolerate such restrictions . Have you read 1984? You're going to have to have words with that secretary of yours again DQ. I hope she's totty cos her error count is rising by the minute. It guess its the strain and worry You see another example of a snide post designed to try and irritate the receiver, ad hominem as it addresses the poster not the post. This forum is full of it and it is this that is creating conflict. The minute I arrived here I was subjected to it which then went bonkers in quantity with this thread. Even repeats of the same stuff post after post from the same poster. All supposed to be against your rules but seems to be encouraged by you when I am the victim of it. Apart from of course where I post a reply, then it is removed and I get my orange chain this = biased moderation in anyones language. |
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Post by jammy on Jul 17, 2014 11:35:29 GMT
Folks i honestly thought and wished the TAS would be a breath of fresh air.
Alas its not to be - The treatment of Mr Dunn by the owner and Moderators beggars belief.
I thought other forums were bad with their Draconian Censorship rules, but **** this place must surely take the biscuit.
Not content with a naughty step or a wee ban or a life time ban.......No the muppets here QUARANTINE.
VERY POOR FORM INDEED.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 11:41:17 GMT
ANNOUNCEMENT
We have made the decision to disable the Warning System (yellow/orange/red card) after considerable and almost unanimous feedback from the membership.
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