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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 8:11:06 GMT
Sorry but that is bollocks victimisation andactually worse and more insidious than a ban. We will print only what we aprove off!!!!!. Who thought up that piece of idiotic bollocks. Not sure why you think that, DQ. We've explained ourselves perfectly clearly. If RD obeys the forum rules, we will post his messages as-is. If he continues in good spirit for a period of time to make us happy, we will lift the quarantine.
I don't think we can be fairer than that.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 8:11:33 GMT
Well I think you guys have been very patient so far, more than I would have been.. One thought doesn't make an intellectual .
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 8:14:12 GMT
Sorry but that is bollocks victimisation andactually worse and more insidious than a ban. We will print only what we aprove off!!!!!. Who thought up that piece of idiotic bollocks. Not sure why you think that, DQ. We've explained ourselves perfectly clearly. If RD obeys the forum rules, we will post his messages as-is. If he continues in good spirit for a period of time to make us happy, we will lift the quarantine.
I don't think we can be fairer than that.
you will see i have elborated upon my thoughts . Also i didnt realise it was RD's job to make you happy . Sorry Martin , but there is a slightly paternalistic narrative to the moderation beginning to emerge .
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Jul 17, 2014 8:14:48 GMT
Yes, that's pretty obvious (in answer to dq's previous post)
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 8:14:59 GMT
It is logistically and practically impossible to be a member of a forum if ONLY your posts are subject to delay that could be minutes or hours RD was given many opportunities to tone down his invective. He even re-posted PM material that I had removed, in an attempt to have more membership read it. That action alone would constitute a ban in many other forums. We have been more than tolerant and the discussion is over.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 8:16:08 GMT
I'm sorry for those that feel this is over the top but as they are 'the usual suspects', their reaction comes as no surprise to anyone. The general concensus appears to support this and in any case is not relevant. The guys that run this have set down a clear set of guidelines. There is no trade here (and what has been attempted has been suitably dealt with) so the campaigning against the industry is not relevant here so is rightly not seen as admissible.
If posts are kept to the usual happy chatter between enthusiasts with a smattering of technical input offered in a friendly spirit, then I'm sure all will be fine here and warnings, quarantine and especially, banning will be unnecessary in the future.
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Post by Marco on Jul 17, 2014 8:18:49 GMT
Sorry but that is bollocks victimisation andactually worse and more insidious than a ban. We will print only what we aprove off!!!!!. Who thought up that piece of idiotic bollocks. Well, as usual, he's brought it all on himself. The mods here have had the patience of a saint and tolertated so much crap from Richard, it was unreal. I guess enough was enough. You deserve a medal, guys, for your tolerance! Marco.
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Post by pre65 on Jul 17, 2014 8:21:11 GMT
Well I think you guys have been very patient so far, more than I would have been.. I think Richard has totally abused the forum for his own, wicked agenda, and I praise the moderation team for being so patient with his totally unacceptable and mostly abusive manner. I also think that a total ban might have been preferable, but at least the chosen course of action might make Richard think twice before he posts. Several members have said Richard is a clever man who adds greatly to the forum content, I'd certainly like to see some of that.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 8:25:45 GMT
So ban him . Dont come up with this face saving bollocks which is to all intents and purposes a ban . Now all you will get bar me , is sycophantic congratulations which merely act a self fullfilling prophecy and self justification . As i said i judge you only by your own words . And o the irony , praise from Marco
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 8:35:23 GMT
So ban him . Dont come up with this face saving bollocks which is to all intents and purposes a ban . Nope, it's not the same thing. He still has posting rights, they will simply be vetted. We don't want to lose any members, but they must observe the forum rules.
As a lawyer, I'm puzzled as to why you cannot see the logic in this?
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2014 8:37:57 GMT
Well, as usual, he's brought it all on himself. The mods here have had the patience of a saint and tolertated so much crap from Richard, it was unreal. I guess enough was enough. You deserve a medal, guys, for your tolerance! Acknowledged, Marco, but as you and RD are known to have been at loggerheads for a good while now, it's best if you keep further comments about RD to yourself. Thanks.
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Post by Marco on Jul 17, 2014 8:42:36 GMT
MODERATION: I know you just saw the above, Marco, but deleted as it will just add to the flames.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 8:42:53 GMT
Not sure what my profession as to do with it , however , there is no logic in it . You can not be a member of a forum -
1] where there is a time delay on your posts - threads move quickly by the time approval is gained , it may be irrelevant , out of context or just daft .
2] The apriori vetting of a post is an unacceptable restriction on free speech and undermines the whole ethos you set for the forum , how does anybody know you are being fare , reasonable and even handed. Who wants to read RD's posts that have your approval !!?
Nobody in their right mind would tolerate such restrictions .
Have you read 1984?
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 17, 2014 8:49:14 GMT
It is logistically and practically impossible to be a member of a forum if ONLY your posts are subject to delay that could be minutes or hours RD was given many opportunities to tone down his invective. He even re-posted PM material that I had removed, in an attempt to have more membership read it. That action alone would constitute a ban in many other forums. We have been more than tolerant and the discussion is over. WHAT!!!!! that is complete ***** lies - show proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MODERATION: the post was here, now removed. I was quite clear about what you were doing.
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 8:52:45 GMT
MODERATION: you are not RD's voice, he can post for himself. He has already done so and I have responded.
yep it took you 45 minutes and only a fraction of what he said and been posted - which proves my point - it is ludicrous .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 8:56:08 GMT
If, as we have been advised, it was Mr Dunn's avowed intent to get banned, then why should he be given the satisfaction? I call the attempt abuse of this forum..
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Post by danielquinn on Jul 17, 2014 9:00:04 GMT
If, as we have been advised, it was Mr Dunn's avowed intent to get banned, then why should he be given the satisfaction? I call the attempt abuse of this forum.. The use of word IF , renders this post irrelevant and rather poor justification of a rather poor policy .
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Post by pre65 on Jul 17, 2014 9:00:23 GMT
See it is ludicrous It would seem, in a fast moving thread, that quarantined posts would get forgotten, yet if they were published after inspection and approval they might not make sense. Buggers muddle.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 9:02:32 GMT
If, as we have been advised, it was Mr Dunn's avowed intent to get banned, then why should he be given the satisfaction? I call the attempt abuse of this forum.. The use of word IF , renders this post irrelevant and rather poor justification of a rather poor policy . No, I don't think it does.
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Post by Seppi on Jul 17, 2014 9:03:24 GMT
Yep either ban or free speech, otherwise it just doe not work. Appreciate that there would still be some moderation if it gets heated.
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