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Post by brian2957 on Oct 12, 2020 8:32:45 GMT
Thanks mate
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Post by brian2957 on Oct 12, 2020 8:40:15 GMT
Double post .
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Post by user211 on Oct 12, 2020 12:05:58 GMT
I am not sure if Micromega isn't one of the coolest sounding hi-fi brand names. Well, it's cooler than 'Nobsound', that's for sure. Makes you wonder if the Chinese aren't taking the piss there;)
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 15, 2020 11:52:16 GMT
For a week or so a hankering to move from the Primaluna valve amp back to the class D Temple Monoblocks has been building up. And today there I was genuflecting at the shrine, err, I mean kneeling by the hifi shelving unit and recabling it all. First listen, hmm, a bit vague and over polite. The Primaluna is quite a vibrant and focused beastie. The Monos were not making a lot of headway. Disappointing. Of course the system has changed since the Monos were last in situ; preamp and DAC changes. I looked suspiciously at the Micromega DAC... and swapped it out for the Chord Mojo. Ah, synergy! The liveliness and vibrancy was back, and the imaging vagueness dispelled. So, Primaluna valves + Micromega DAC = happiness. And Temple Monos ss class D + Chord Mojo = happiness. But it's not really the same sound. The Temples have got noticeably more scale (something like 3x the power of the PL). And more delineated left/right stereo. The Temples remain tightly focused at the left and right extremes while the PL gets just a little vague. There is a little less spang in the leading edges from the Temples, but more texture in the sustain. The PL is more intimate, with a somewhat deeper soundstage. Compare & Contrast - the overall effect is rather different. The current Plan is to keep all of it, and carry on swapping and experimenting, but that may change depending on how I get on with the DAC/pre/streamer I seem to have bought yesterday evening.
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Post by John on Oct 15, 2020 12:12:14 GMT
It just goes to show the importance of matching
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Post by brian2957 on Oct 15, 2020 12:32:47 GMT
Yup , synergy is everything
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Post by Slinger on Oct 15, 2020 13:02:09 GMT
...but that may change depending on how I get on with the DAC/pre/streamer I seem to have bought yesterday evening.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 15, 2020 14:18:10 GMT
SYNERGY!!!
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 15, 2020 18:39:45 GMT
The best, and craziest, use of the 2 small Black Ravioli platforms that I bought a few weeks ago. Under the SGS Sig grounding box, separated by sorbothane footers. Not convinced, in the longer term, of the sonic benefits of BR under normal gear - while improving musical flow it seems to put a drag on dynamism and transient speed - I was a bit hacked off with myself for not going with my previous BR experience which was similar. Then inspiration struck - I was already using sorbothane, which I usually dislike for the same reasons as BR, under the grounding box so just maybe adding the BR would also be beneficial. Maybe! Yup, Bingo! Crazy as it seems, the further isolation under the grounding box provides benefit in terms of 3D imaging and fuller tonality. What I now realise was a slight brashness has also been removed. Crazy things, grounding boxes.
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Post by user211 on Oct 15, 2020 19:38:06 GMT
Indeed. A scream for what you need.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 15, 2020 20:29:35 GMT
Yup - all my grounding boxes are on BR feet for the same reason.
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Post by John on Oct 16, 2020 6:21:49 GMT
I also use BR pads on the RTZ grounding box. I am glad you found a use the Black Ravioli pads Jerry
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Post by MartinT on Oct 16, 2020 6:52:46 GMT
while improving musical flow it seems to put a drag on dynamism and transient speed Interesting - not my finding at all. I have BR under everything and my system is not shy of knockout speed and dynamics.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 16, 2020 7:32:00 GMT
I don't doubt it, knowing your tastes! But try taking some away and see if it gets even faster and more dynamic.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 16, 2020 9:07:42 GMT
But try taking some away and see if it gets even faster and more dynamic. It gets harsher and shoutier!
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 16, 2020 9:34:41 GMT
Ah, OK. I don't really want to tone my system down. It just gets boring if I do that. Which pretty much sums up what BR does in my system. I guess we are hearing two sides of the same coin. You've optimised your system with BR and I haven't, so any changes take them away from our respective objectives.
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Post by user211 on Oct 16, 2020 9:51:07 GMT
I try to make sure my equipment weighs an absolute ton. That way damping materials become pretty much irrelevant.
Grounding boxes, though? What's that about? Isn't mains earth good enough?
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Post by ajski2fly on Oct 16, 2020 11:32:14 GMT
I try to make sure my equipment weighs an absolute ton. That way damping materials become pretty much irrelevant. Grounding boxes, though? What's that about? Isn't mains earth good enough? Don't go there, a can of worms or possibly a box full of worms!
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Post by MartinT on Oct 16, 2020 11:46:58 GMT
You've optimised your system with BR and I haven't, so any changes take them away from our respective objectives. Yes, agreed.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 16, 2020 11:49:19 GMT
Grounding boxes, though? What's that about? Isn't mains earth good enough? It's... different. There can be a lot of noise on the mains earth, which exists primarily for safety. Grounding boxes are designed to suck away noise from the ground plane of equipment right up close to them. Consider them to be a quieter more local form of ground.
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