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Post by user211 on Sept 13, 2020 19:16:31 GMT
They all do it, Jerry. Had the same problem with TIDAL and Spotify. Sure I will find the same with Amazon.
It is annoying.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 13, 2020 19:22:07 GMT
Not come across this much on Spotify, I must be lucky.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 13, 2020 19:22:17 GMT
Just a gut feeling, but I suspect Spotify does it quite a lot less.
Mind you, I guess at a tenner a month I could keep Spotify available as a backup option.
It does rankle, though.
Edit: yup, as per Jules.
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Post by user211 on Sept 13, 2020 20:38:20 GMT
It did happen a lot on Spotify a long time ago. They basically had stuff they had no right to broadcast and they had to stop doing it.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 13, 2020 21:00:57 GMT
Quite a few albums I want to listen to that have been gutted or deleted on Qobuz are still fully available on Spotify. Hmm, quite tempted to cancel my Qobuz sub for a while, I'm a bit pissed off with them. A bit less rez with Spot, but I find it very listenable and having the music I want to listen to available takes priority. I'll just zonk up the treble by a dB or two, that should do it.  |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2020 21:11:49 GMT
Licencing funnies, I suspect.
There's all manner of strange things happens to albums. Sometimes I come across something that's on Qobuz but not Spotify, too.
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Post by user211 on Sept 14, 2020 7:27:59 GMT
Quite a few albums I want to listen to that have been gutted or deleted on Qobuz are still fully available on Spotify. Hmm, quite tempted to cancel my Qobuz sub for a while, I'm a bit pissed off with them. A bit less rez with Spot, but I find it very listenable and having the music I want to listen to available takes priority. I'll just zonk up the treble by a dB or two, that should do it. Try Amazon. It's cheap and very good and better quality than Spot. |
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Post by user211 on Sept 14, 2020 7:30:12 GMT
Licencing funnies, I suspect. There's all manner of strange things happens to albums. Sometimes I come across something that's on Qobuz but not Spotify, too. You really need Queerbuz, Spitify and Amazing all together to win:D Needed a better play on Amazon. Any ideas? Extreme prejudice is acceptable:) |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 14, 2020 7:38:30 GMT
While Volumio continues to not support Amazon, I shall ignore it. Qobuz is my main source and Spotify just fills in and is used sometimes in my car.
To be honest, it's very rare now that I come across anything (that I like) that's not on Qobuz.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 14, 2020 8:33:32 GMT
I did have a trial with Amazon when it (re)launched itself recently but I didn't like the UI at all and the classical catalogue wasn't up to much, either.
Perhaps I'll have another go.
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Post by user211 on Sept 14, 2020 8:55:37 GMT
It was free for 3 months not sure if it still is.
The UI takes a while to get used to but when you have it sussed on a laptop it is fine. It's actually very well done although it isn't how I would do it but hey.
Or if you want a simple UI get a Fire Stick 4K for £50. You'll be limited to 16 bit 48K with a Fire stick but you won't care Jerry.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 14, 2020 9:16:05 GMT
You're right, I wouldn't care about 16 bit 48k.
But I doubt a 'simple' UI would be adequate. I want to be able to do quite a bit, I just want it sensibly and intelligibly presented and linked together, which Amazon didn't seem to be. And phone is now my preferred device.
All in all, Qobuz does it best for me on laptop and phone, but not if they play silly buggers with music availability.
If an album disappears, that may be a licensing issue. But if tracks are randomly removed from an album, presumably by the music provider, then something is fundamentally wrong with the service provision imo.
For whatever reason, Spotify does seem to do that better.
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Post by user211 on Sept 14, 2020 12:08:04 GMT
I saw missing tracks on some TIDAL albums.
But they were available for purchase. So it was deliberate.
It was quite rare, though.
But entire albums would disappear on TIDAL.
I am using the Fire Stick and the projector at the moment. It's good enough but the laptop interface is I would say the best GUI so far for a music service provider. But that's just my opinion.
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Post by user211 on Sept 14, 2020 12:20:05 GMT
BTW the Amazon mobile app is good.
It is still free for 90 days.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 14, 2020 12:53:33 GMT
BTW the Amazon mobile app is good. It is still free for 90 days. I've had a free trial period of Amazon Music already, I don't think they let you have another. |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 14, 2020 12:57:49 GMT
I saw missing tracks on some TIDAL albums. But they were available for purchase. So it was deliberate. It was quite rare, though. But entire albums would disappear on TIDAL. I am using the Fire Stick and the projector at the moment. It's good enough but the laptop interface is I would say the best GUI so far for a music service provider. But that's just my opinion. The main problem for me with TIDAL is too many albums have jumbled up tracks, no good at all for classical music. Just very very poor internal indexing makes the tracks appear in the wrong order. Tidal didn't start off that way, but gradually got worse. They introduced the concept of internal 'volumes' in albums, segmenting them into sections, to try and get around this, but it's a partial success at best. |
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Post by user211 on Sept 14, 2020 13:00:34 GMT
BTW the Amazon mobile app is good. It is still free for 90 days. I've had a free trial period of Amazon Music already, I don't think they let you have another. Forgot - you did say. Stay Spotty then. |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 17, 2020 8:26:19 GMT
Have just got back from a couple of weeks in the hills of mid Wales - and there's now quite a backlog of gear to have a listen to. Current DACs - SMSL M200, Rega, Topping D70*, Bluetooth gizmos (cheap Chinese crap) - Breeze stepped attenuator pre, Nobsound receiver with digital outputs, Prozor receiver/DAC. An almost infinite number of possibilities! Well, quite a few.  Currently listening to the SMSL M200 via Bluetooth. * I had sold the D70 but it was DOA, so sent it off to Alan Firebottle who kindly replaced a couple of diodes one of which had failed and all is now well again. I shall have another go with it... if the diodes were dodgy maybe it wasn't sounding at its best? |
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Post by mikeyb on Sept 17, 2020 9:06:35 GMT
While Volumio continues to not support Amazon, I shall ignore it. Qobuz is my main source and Spotify just fills in and is used sometimes in my car. To be honest, it's very rare now that I come across anything (that I like) that's not on Qobuz. Can't support it if Amazon don't allow it, hardly any devices around that can stream Amazon to your HiFi. Volumio, MoOde etc will most likely never be able to stream Amazon directly without reverting to airplay or Bluetooth and that's down to Amazon themselves, they need to make it possible before any third parties can implement it. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 17, 2020 10:52:00 GMT
It was the same with Qobuz and Tidal, so Volumio changed their model to subscription which paid for the joint work with them to develop the playback capabilities.
It can be done if Amazon are cooperative. If they aren't, then they can take a jump. They are not going to dictate inferior hardware to me.
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