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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 9:41:47 GMT
I am tempted to try a Power Inspired AG1500 in my system.
One thing that is niggling me is the safety aspect of potentially masking the double pole RCD in the distribution board from a fault by running things through the regen unit.
I have e-mailed Power Inspired about this, but I was wondering if anybody knows how the unit would operate if one of my components went faulty? I realise it is not balanced mains, so I don't have +115v on live and -115v on neutral, but I am intrigued by how this device would work as I won't take any risks for a small sound improvement with a young child in the house.
Does anybody know for certain?
One other option is the Airlink transformer with the optional RCDs fitted, and the other is just to leave the system as it is.
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Post by pre65 on Nov 13, 2016 10:03:26 GMT
Do nothing would be my answer, unless you are convinced that
A) It is 100% safe.
B) There WILL be a noticeable improvement.
Do you have any DC on your mains ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 10:09:58 GMT
Yes I have a small amount of DC on my mains, but a DC blocker stops the amp from buzzing.
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Post by AlanS on Nov 13, 2016 10:28:21 GMT
You guys knock me out. I have a Power Inspired and never even began to think of this. Then again I don't live in my head and fears. I just bought one and enjoyed it. I discovered I had the most amazing mains that is free of all the ills that Audiophiles are troubled by RFI, clicks bumps and buzzing.
Forget it and just accept nothing is perfect especially in the HiFi world. Learn to love what you have. Enjoy the music not your system.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 11:04:55 GMT
I can't understand the issue or the problem. The earth continues through the regenerator and protects all its equipment. The RCD will trip if there is a differential in the circuit and again will protect the equipment. These things have been used by the thousands in studios, offices, hospitals and homes without issue. You will love the sound quality improvement.
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Post by zippy on Nov 13, 2016 12:03:35 GMT
You guys knock me out. I have a Power Inspired and never even began to think of this. Then again I don't live in my head and fears. I just bought one and enjoyed it. I discovered I had the most amazing mains that is free of all the ills that Audiophiles are troubled by RFI, clicks bumps and buzzing. Forget it and just accept nothing is perfect especially in the HiFi world. Learn to love what you have. Enjoy the music not your system. Yes - seems a clear case of worrying about something that aint going to happen ! I suspect your equipment is much better protected when connected via a regenerator than when plugged direct into the mains. As I may have said before, when I started using a regenerator (also an AG1500) I took out all my equipment's 13amp plugs and distribution blocks and replaced with IEC - no switches, no fuses. Before doing so I queried with P.I. whether this was an OK thing to do and they assured me it was fine. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 13:11:11 GMT
Indeed, I have used regeneration for three generations of kit, some 15 years. Of those, only the P300 failed and it blew its fuse: end of regeneration. It was fine after being repaired. After sampling what regeneration can do, especially the P10, I would not now be without it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 13:11:23 GMT
I don't have any switches or fuses to start with.
Only the dual pole RCD, and internal equipment fuses.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 13:23:08 GMT
The regenerator will have adequate protection, too.
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Post by Sovereign on Nov 13, 2016 13:55:04 GMT
I agree with all the above, when I had an AG 1500 I made a silly DIY electrical mistake and the AG1500 coughs it and tripped it's own internal safety switch. If your RCD protected you RCD will trip within about 30-50 milliseconds. With a AG1500 you have another tripping safety device between your RCD and Hifi, so therefore another layer of protection.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 14:04:02 GMT
Thanks for the info.
It looks like I may be placing an order for the AG1500 soon.
With the aircon, heat pump operation and fridges/freezers in the house, I am interested to see if it makes any difference (or not).
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Post by Sovereign on Nov 13, 2016 14:19:49 GMT
Great, keep us posted, I'd like to know what you think of the diffence it makes.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 17:05:20 GMT
With the aircon, heat pump operation and fridges/freezers in the house, I am interested to see if it makes any difference (or not). Liberally spreading plug-in noise absorption devices will really help with machine-generated noise. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 17:58:05 GMT
Why would I need those if my regenerator gives me clean AC?
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 18:01:03 GMT
It's been well discussed elsewhere. The more you remove noise, especially impulse noise as from washing machines, the better the job your regenerator will do.
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Post by pinkie on Nov 13, 2016 18:35:59 GMT
I can't understand the issue or the problem. The earth continues through the regenerator and protects all its equipment. The RCD will trip if there is a differential in the circuit and again will protect the equipment. These things have been used by the thousands in studios, offices, hospitals and homes without issue. You will love the sound quality improvement. That is absolutely not true and demonstrates that you do not understand how an rcd works. It doesn't give a flying f*** what, if any, earth exists. It compares the current on the live and neutral wires and trips if one differs from the other. A transformer isolates one circuit from another. By a £5 tester and check for yourself rather than try to understand it, although it is quite literally ladybird book of electricity stuff. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 19:14:52 GMT
Richard, don't tell me what I don't know. The earth is continuous through the regenerator. The RCD will trip if there is a differential.
Yup, both statements are correct and were not connected to each other by me. I know how an RCD works, thank you.
While I'm at it, and because you have past history of throwing incorrect accusations at people, please be careful to read what has been written before jumping in the next time.
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Post by pinkie on Nov 13, 2016 21:16:21 GMT
Richard, don't tell me what I don't know. The earth is continuous through the regenerator. The RCD will trip if there is a differential. Yup, both statements are correct and were not connected to each other by me. I know how an RCD works, thank you. While I'm at it, and because you have past history of throwing incorrect accusations at people, please be careful to read what has been written before jumping in the next time.
Once again, Richard, please don't tell me what I know or don't know. I made two separate statements. Both are intended to protect equipment and human life, via different actions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 21:43:32 GMT
To be honest, if there is any doubt about safety aspects, I won't be changing anything.
I am waiting to hear back from Power Inspired about what protection is built in to the AG1500. That should be tomorrow when they are back to work.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 13, 2016 22:13:23 GMT
The PS Audio P10 has an inlet fuse and an output RCD to protect equipment that it feeds. I don't know the AG1500, but hopefully it would have a similar level of protection.
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