|
|
Post by Mr Whippy on Jun 21, 2023 22:21:19 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 22, 2023 7:31:36 GMT
There's nothing wrong with demanding that phones - not just Apple - all have replaceable batteries. There are two big reasons for scrapping phones and tablets: smashed screens and lost battery capacity. People will discard perfectly decent phones because a two-year-old heavily used battery is failing. It's wasteful.
|
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 22, 2023 9:06:57 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65967464 I find this very sad. There seems to be precious little hope now of a successful rescue. What there will need to be is a full inquiry. How was this sub ever allowed to undergo commercial operations without safety certification? What do the risk assessment and disaster recovery documents look like? Which agency oversaw OceanGate's operations? Why did the sightseers undergo such a risky trip? Were they fully aware of the dangers of circa 4km depth and the lack of much if any rescue options? It looks like a 19 year old, with most of his life in front of him, will be cut short in unimaginable circumstances.
|
|
|
|
Post by Slinger on Jun 22, 2023 9:31:41 GMT
“ This experimental submersible vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma, or death.” That's just one line from the " extensive" waiver outlining a number of potential ways they could die during the journey that all of the passengers on the sub are asked to sign before being sealed inside her. Apparently the waiver mentions " death" three times on the first page. www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/missing-titanic-submarine-wasnt-signed-30278445 |
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 22, 2023 10:58:51 GMT
I'd heard that, but you've got to ask yourself the questions:
- Why was this commercial operation allowed by the oversight body?
- Why did anyone sign up to it?
- What were the father and mother thinking?
|
|
|
|
Post by nicholas on Jun 22, 2023 13:08:25 GMT
Throughout my life I've made it a point to carefully avoid places where the barometric pressure exceeds 6000 pounds per square inch. Pictures will suffice, thank you.
|
|
|
|
Post by Slinger on Jun 22, 2023 13:35:05 GMT
Throughout my life I've made it a point to carefully avoid places where the barometric pressure exceeds 6000 pounds per square inch. Pictures will suffice, thank you. That's roughly the same attitude I have towards jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aeroplane in flight. |
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 22, 2023 14:04:12 GMT
Throughout my life I've made it a point to carefully avoid places where the barometric pressure exceeds 6000 pounds per square inch. Pictures will suffice, thank you. Exactly that! (and the pictures are higher resolution than what could be seen through a tiny porthole in pitch darkness with a couple of lamps shining) |
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 22, 2023 16:14:46 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 22, 2023 18:28:53 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by nicholas on Jun 22, 2023 18:50:28 GMT
At 6000 psi the implosion would have occured much faster than a pin piercing a balloon.
|
|
|
|
Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2023 10:49:48 GMT
Cannot believe they went and did it
My first thought was that visiting the wreck as sightseers was inappropriate, ghoulish, disrespectful.
Didn't watch Titanic and probably never will
Don't like water anyway. Going that far down in what seems to be a prototype or a Heath Robinson sub is insane.
No second chances if anything goes wrong
Das Boot gave me enough reality of life under the water
|
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 23, 2023 11:23:27 GMT
Simply outstanding war film, one of the best ever made. |
|
|
|
Post by Slinger on Jun 23, 2023 13:14:28 GMT
Simply outstanding war film, one of the best ever made. Jeanette's Dad was in the Navy during the war (he was actually on a ship that was torpedoed) and he said the same thing. Obviously he had very little affection for German submariners, but he thought it was brilliant. I believe it was the was the Jürgen Prochnow TV series that he saw, and he watched it with a growing and grudging respect. |
|
|
|
Post by MartinT on Jun 23, 2023 13:23:39 GMT
Yes, I saw the mini series and also the edited feature film. Prochnow is incredible playing that part.
|
|
|
|
Post by MikeMusic on Jun 23, 2023 15:00:54 GMT
Shows how evil war is, from the perspective of the U Boat crew
The series is the one I saw
The end was particularly moving
|
|
|
|
Post by Tim on Jun 23, 2023 18:34:11 GMT
- Why did anyone sign up to it? - What were the father and mother thinking? Those are the two most pertinent questions.
As a past scuba diver with a fair bit of experience I have my own views on this, which are not too dissimilar to James Cameron's. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for any of those who lost their lives apart from the 19 year old - the rest should have known better. It's very tragic but it should never have happened - it's the families I feel the real sorrow for, as they're the real victims.
|
|
|
|
Post by Slinger on Jun 23, 2023 19:08:42 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Slinger on Jun 23, 2023 19:11:49 GMT
Oh, dear God, it gets worse...
|
|
|
|
Post by speedysteve on Jun 23, 2023 20:04:55 GMT
Shows human stupidity and misguided resource deployment / lack empathy for others in real need.
I'm referring to all who are living under oppression, hunger and persecution, so great that they take the desperate action to flee their unstable countries.
Board unsafe boats and perish in the attempt.
Where was the rescue mission and resources for them?
The world idlely stood by and watched.
A bunch of privalidged adventurers, more money than sense, on nothing more than a rubber neck mission! - that gets a huge sympathy vote, not to mention endless resources thrown at it - really?!
|
|
