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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 8:01:37 GMT
Many years ago I would have thought such a thing was madness. I loved the control the Rock possessed when using the trough. These days my tastes appear to have changed and I too prefer the Rock without the trough. Sadly, even used this way, I don't seem to get as good a sound as I do with other decks. I still love the looks though.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 16, 2015 10:36:30 GMT
Agreed, The Rock is a nice deck.
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 16, 2015 10:37:22 GMT
Many years ago I would have thought such a thing was madness. I loved the control the Rock possessed when using the trough. These days my tastes appear to have changed and I too prefer the Rock without the trough. Sadly, even used this way, I don't seem to get as good a sound as I do with other decks. I still love the looks though. There can be lots of reasons for that though can't there Singularity? The one I hear, always has the same sort of music on it; Rush, Dire Straits, Wishbone Ash, Bad Company. The friend is a guitarist so he loves guitar groups and according to him, the Rock is a guitarist's deck. It also has a very direct sound and I personally have gone for smoother over the years, perhaps that is something that comes with advanced years and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. What ancillary equipment are you using with your turntable? |
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 16, 2015 10:38:14 GMT
Agreed, The Rock is a nice deck. I've always thought of it as a regaish deck. |
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 16, 2015 11:02:15 GMT
When it comes to both interconnects and speaker wire a great deal of snobbery and outlandish claims are made. 6 amp mains cable is perfectly suited for speakers. In choosing 10 amp Quad were being a bit over the top. Years ago bell wire was happily used by millions. The cable in discussion was this:  Two core 10A rated cable, having a core cross sectional area of 0.75mm², has a typical loop resistance of 52mΩ/metre. As a rule of thumb, speaker cables ought to have a loop resistance of no more than 5% of the nominal impedance of the speaker. Assuming this is 8Ω then that is 400mΩ. A typical speaker lead might be 5m long, making the loop resistance 260mΩ; this is comfortably within the 400mΩ requirement. Of course the orange colour of the cladding improves the sound quality enormously! I have used the above on a second system with satisfactory results Barry. Does this make me a Moweraphile?! I do love the orange colour as it happens and am planning some inter-connects in the same hue. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 14:26:21 GMT
Many years ago I would have thought such a thing was madness. I loved the control the Rock possessed when using the trough. These days my tastes appear to have changed and I too prefer the Rock without the trough. Sadly, even used this way, I don't seem to get as good a sound as I do with other decks. I still love the looks though. There can be lots of reasons for that though can't there Singularity? The one I hear, always has the same sort of music on it; Rush, Dire Straits, Wishbone Ash, Bad Company. The friend is a guitarist so he loves guitar groups and according to him, the Rock is a guitarist's deck. It also has a very direct sound and I personally have gone for smoother over the years, perhaps that is something that comes with advanced years and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. What ancillary equipment are you using with your turntable? I got got rid of my last Rock a short while ago. I must have had about a dozen over the years. These days I seem to prefer the Xerxes. However, in the last few months I read about the Sony PS-6750 Direct Drive turntable. A few people whose judgement I trust seemed to like it, so I bought one to play off against my Xerxes. To my surprise it was pretty much identical to the Xerxes. I don't think I could've picked them in blind listening. Having compared many decks at home, I've never found any two to be remotely similar, so it was a bit of a surprise. As the Sony was far nicer to use, I let the Xerxes go. I'm now using the Sony with an OC9 and it still easily beats my Naim CDX (which is the best player I've had so far). I think my liking for The Rock preceded my Flat Earth days. I came out of my Linn/Naim/Exposure phase with a greater need for superb rhythm and timing. As good as the Rock is, I just find it a bit too plain sounding. Not sure if that will make sense to anyone but me though  |
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Post by roxbrough on Aug 16, 2015 15:16:22 GMT
Singularity I understand totally.
The Hi-Fi press has conditioned us somewhat over the years to expect English equipment over Japanese.
I have recently discovered that Sony make some decent speakers, so your claim for the turntable sits quite comfortably with me.
My only reservation will be how it will age, being direct drive, but if you like it and are happy then good luck to you sir, glad you are enjoying your music.
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Post by pinkie on Aug 16, 2015 18:56:17 GMT
Why use damping fluid? I had a mission 774 for 20 years, and apart from a bit of early fooling around used it dry.
My buddy AK has been misquoted by his alleged staff (paul) on vinyl engine, as designing products with no damping. Plainly bollocks, but the pair of us prefer to avoid gratuitous damping where possible
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Post by The Brookmeister on Aug 29, 2015 20:54:13 GMT
Turntable on top of rack, amp at bottom, 1 metre just about fits!
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