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Post by ynwan on Oct 9, 2016 20:55:07 GMT
The bleeding edge is right out on the tip of the leading edge! Yes, but usually refers to unproven or experimental technology liable to failure - hardly what the turntable manufacture wants. Looks interesting though .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 20:59:49 GMT
Mark: You still got that Flutterbuster knocking about?
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Post by MartinT on Oct 10, 2016 5:46:08 GMT
I can't stand that kind of inaccuracy and always query it. It doesn't go down well...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 15:58:11 GMT
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Post by orbscure on Dec 1, 2016 20:25:12 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Dec 1, 2016 20:31:05 GMT
That is rather beautiful.
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Post by orbscure on Dec 1, 2016 21:03:39 GMT
Cheers Chris, appreciate the feedback I'm now looking at the link between the deck and my amp. My AN Oto SE is unfortunately a non-phono example, so I rely on a phono amp. The Benedict Audio Hothead MC I currently use was bought with what I could afford at that time and don't get me wrong, it apppears to do a good job. However, I can't help thinking that I could possibly extract more if I could pick up something better at around £500... I have an itch to scratch with the NVA Phono 2, but I may wait until after Christmas and see what tickles my fancy then
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 21:17:30 GMT
Nice those TD125
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Post by ant on Dec 1, 2016 21:23:23 GMT
That is rather nice 125, I haven't had a suspended deck in my system for years since I sold on my yamaha pf800. Have a td 160 here with a busted arm, i must do something with it soon
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Post by MartinT on Dec 1, 2016 21:36:27 GMT
I always liked the TD125. Yours is a very nice example.
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Post by orbscure on Dec 1, 2016 22:39:49 GMT
Many thanks chaps... after a disappointing experience with a dealer serviced/set-up LP12/Denon DL110, I really didn't think I'd ever embrace vinyl again. But having kept hold of all my black stuff, I decided to give it one final try when this stock 125 became available elsewhere. I must admit at this point that purchasing a record cleaning machine has enhanced playback no end, a luxury not afforded to my previous Rega Acos or LP12 decks . As it really should, it makes enough of a difference to justfy the extra expense. I was reading James/Sovereigns turntable experiences on another thread here with great interest, if only to see if he would indeed give it a go and give it a chance. In my case, I'm really not sure what it is about the TD125, but it just makes vinyl sound good. So good in fact that nearly all of my music related purchases have swung almost entirely from flac downloads to old or reissued vinyl. Sure, its not a perfect medium, but with a good clean pressing/recording, I finally get what all the fuss is about. I still enjoy 24bit flac recordings, but I also love vinyl, despite its imperfections...
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Post by orbscure on Mar 31, 2017 8:27:41 GMT
Rather than hijack James' "How would you rate this TT" thread, as way of an update to my previous posts in this thread with regards my TD125 MK.II upgrade, I thought I'd also address the inquisitive minds asking about the recent addition of a damper weight on my Jelco arm. Steve @ Magna Audio developed a Jelco damper weight for Hugo @ Ammonite Audio and was especially intrigued with Hugo's comments on the weight, which I've reproduced below,
"If anyone with a Jelco arm is a bit puzzled why placing a weight on top of the arm structure can possibly be a Good Thing, my advice is to try it. In the first instance, just use a spare counterweight (usually the heavy one that comes with the arm), and place it carefully on top of the damping knob. Adding mass in this way, to my ears, greatly enhances the depth of sound and musical flow. It's free to try in the first instance and you can always get Steve to make you a nice shiny one that sits more securely on top of the arm if you like the effect. There's nothing pseudo-scientific or foo about why this works - one of the best ways of damping a resonant structure is to apply mass. That's all!" [from AoS thread here]
Here is an additional photo of the weight in situ on my TD125/Jelco 750D:
My initial thoughts were that there was indeed a subtle difference, especially with the mid and lower frequencies and I could perhaps detect a better focus on vocals, along with an improved emphasis of the lower end. In my humble opinion, at a touch over £60, its well worth the outlay and I'm looking forward to spinning more slabs of the good'ol black stuff
Pete
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 31, 2017 9:07:37 GMT
Aaaah, I see. Thanks for explaining.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Apr 2, 2017 20:49:28 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Apr 3, 2017 5:42:23 GMT
Very nice.
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Post by Sovereign on Apr 3, 2017 9:39:00 GMT
Hi Pete, how much did your turntable cost to you and how much did the various upgrades cost to get it to a reasonable sounding decision, thanks mate.
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Post by ant on Apr 3, 2017 11:37:45 GMT
What im using at the moment The other 5 are in various states of repair
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Post by orbscure on Apr 3, 2017 18:00:02 GMT
Here's a breakdown of the total costs thus upgrading it from an honest example to what we see today James: TD125 MK.II = £300.00 (privatre seller on WAM) Jelco SA750D = £310.00 (private seller on WAM) Improved Jelco Mounting Collar = £48.60 (via Ammonite Acounstics) Custom Ebony Armboard = £116.00 (via Magna Audio) Oyaide headshell = £122.00 (Ammonite Acounstics) Hana SL = £501.05 (via MCRU) 2m DIN to RCA = £134.00 (via Audio Origami) Plinth = £102.14 (via eBay) Stainless Steel Top Plate = £82.16 (via eBay) Total = £1715.95 There is a thread following this upgrade on the WAM hereYou can pick up second hand TD125's in varying states, so you needn't shell out big money to start with, just letting the upgrade bug take you in whatever direction you want to go, especially with regards the more expensive items like the tonearm and cart. Cheers Pete
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Post by Greg on Apr 3, 2017 20:04:58 GMT
Pete, did you need to upgrade the suspension springs? The weight of an Ebony armboard and Jelco seems a big increase that I would expect to bring balancing issues. On my old TD150, I fitted Linn springs to good effect to accommodate extra weight.
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Post by Sovereign on Apr 3, 2017 20:13:39 GMT
Here's a breakdown of the total costs thus upgrading it from an honest example to what we see today James: TD125 MK.II = £300.00 (privatre seller on WAM) Jelco SA750D = £310.00 (private seller on WAM) Improved Jelco Mounting Collar = £48.60 (via Ammonite Acounstics) Custom Ebony Armboard = £116.00 (via Magna Audio) Oyaide headshell = £122.00 (Ammonite Acounstics) Hana SL = £501.05 (via MCRU) 2m DIN to RCA = £134.00 (via Audio Origami) Plinth = £102.14 (via eBay) Stainless Steel Top Plate = £82.16 (via eBay) Total = £1715.95 There is a thread following this upgrade on the WAM hereYou can pick up second hand TD125's in varying states, so you needn't shell out big money to start with, just letting the upgrade bug take you in whatever direction you want to go, especially with regards the more expensive items like the tonearm and cart. Cheers Pete Bollox, shouldn't have asked
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