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Post by mikeyb on Apr 4, 2017 7:00:23 GMT
Here's a breakdown of the total costs thus upgrading it from an honest example to what we see today James: TD125 MK.II = £300.00 (privatre seller on WAM) Jelco SA750D = £310.00 (private seller on WAM) Improved Jelco Mounting Collar = £48.60 (via Ammonite Acounstics) Custom Ebony Armboard = £116.00 (via Magna Audio) Oyaide headshell = £122.00 (Ammonite Acounstics) Hana SL = £501.05 (via MCRU) 2m DIN to RCA = £134.00 (via Audio Origami) Plinth = £102.14 (via eBay) Stainless Steel Top Plate = £82.16 (via eBay) Total = £1715.95 There is a thread following this upgrade on the WAM hereYou can pick up second hand TD125's in varying states, so you needn't shell out big money to start with, just letting the upgrade bug take you in whatever direction you want to go, especially with regards the more expensive items like the tonearm and cart. Cheers Pete Bollox, shouldn't have asked Thing is, I've done a 1210 to a good standard too, frightened to add it all up but if you buy bit by bit as you go along it doesn't seem so expensive 😉 Would I have bought an upgraded 1210 for what I've actually paid for all the parts, no, I'd probably have bought something else, but it's how good it sounds that counts and I wouldn't change that. Doing it yourself month by month is half the fun of it.
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Post by orbscure on Apr 4, 2017 7:06:34 GMT
I must admit that it surprised me how much I'd spent Mike, but as you say, that was over 12+ month period and there are cheaper options for almost every part of the upgrade and it could be argued that a couple of them are non-essential too. I also managed to get some funds back from selling the Micro Seiki tonearm and Canare tonearm cable both supplied/fitted to the turntable, so it wasn't a one way street
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Post by Sovereign on Apr 4, 2017 9:17:21 GMT
The thing is if each upgrade brings you pleasure then it's worth it at every stage, my DAC if I were to add it up must be somewhere about there. Well done Pete, looks great.
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Post by mikeyb on Apr 4, 2017 9:45:54 GMT
I must admit that it surprised me how much I'd spent Mike, but as you say, that was over 12+ month period and there are cheaper options for almost every part of the upgrade and it could be argued that a couple of them are non-essential too. I also managed to get some funds back from selling the Micro Seiki tonearm and Canare tonearm cable both supplied/fitted to the turntable, so it wasn't a one way street Much the same as I have done 😀
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Post by mikeyb on Apr 4, 2017 9:47:05 GMT
The thing is if each upgrade brings you pleasure then it's worth it at every stage, my DAC if I were to add it up must be somewhere about there. Well done Pete, looks great. That's exactly it, and as I told my wife, it cost pennies 😉 😂
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Post by dsjr on Apr 6, 2017 17:30:38 GMT
I always liked the TD125. Yours is a very nice example. Please forgive me if I appear to pee on this parade, but despite LOOKING nice, one fundamental thing on the 125mk2 kills it for dead if not attended to, and that's the tolerance and slop in the main bearing. I've only ever dealt with a few 125mk2's, but like the early 80's AR 'The Turntable,' the main bearing had wobble in it (hold the sub-chassis with one hand, place palm on the inner hub and try to rock it). If it's not severe, a more viscous oil may be all you need to minimise it - the 125mk1 had a lovely tight bearing and it wasn't until the mk3 TD126 that I believe it was sorted - as sonics really are affected and give a vague almost amorphous quality when compared to a good LP12 from the period. With the bearing sorted properly, exit cables properly dressed and clamped (a clamp may need to be added to the rear of the plinth as I don't remember Thorens ever fitting one) and the suspension tweaked, a 125 should beat most pre-Cirkus LP12's handsomely as long as the belt isn't allowed to stretch too much.
I had a 125mk1 for a couple of years recently and stupidly let slip the chance to buy it back last year before it was sold for double the price I let it go for - itself a good price bearing in mind the silly amounts now on the used market nowadays. Lovely deck if properly fettled and remember, on launch, the 125 apparently cost more than a 124 and 150 added together, according to a Gramophone review from the late 60's...
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Post by orbscure on Apr 7, 2017 18:07:47 GMT
You must get out of the habit of apologising for passing constructive comment Dave. I for one appreciate you sharing your years of experience, especially when your words could enhance, improve or reward the listener... something we are all seeking to achieve
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 20:08:40 GMT
Nice decks the 'TD125' I use a very very early Mk.1 'TD160' Dated November 1972,
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Post by ynwan on May 16, 2017 18:59:38 GMT
I've owned both TD150 and 160 and would echo Dave's comments about bearing play. I would also second the idea that this should be tackled by using as viscous an oil as possible. These are both quite nicely made decks but bearing tolerance was not one of their stronger points (in an absolute sense and they were far from alone in this regard).
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:38:28 GMT
Im using a Silicon differential oil 10,000cst. Its only about a fiver a bottle.. My bearing also has a Teflon liner in the bottom..
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:29:56 GMT
Loving having a turntable again, it's great
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 16, 2017 20:37:36 GMT
Im using a Silicon differential oil 10,000cst. Its only about a fiver a bottle.. My bearing also has a Teflon liner in the bottom.. Still got the Focus?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:43:14 GMT
Yeh. I don't use it any more tho, Its boxed away. Ill never sell it bought it 35 years ago.
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