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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 17:43:22 GMT
Right had enough of soldering and making interesting bits fit into spaces they were nevered designed for I blame Clive!
Mike Yoga sessions I feel best not discussed on open forums something about you tube copyright???
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 12, 2019 20:34:34 GMT
Mike Yoga sessions I feel best not discussed on open forums something about you tube copyright??? I'm put in mind of what John Peel said when people wanted to watch him DJing on the radio. Paraphrase It would be boring  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 13, 2019 17:33:04 GMT
Everything matters
TAD established so time for mods under and over
The Isis used to sit on Black Ravioli on top of the excellent Electric Beach S1NX platform sitting on RDC4 cones
On top of the Isis a couple of S1NX mini platforms
All made a difference.
How might this affect the TAD ?
Baseline was the TAD on the S1NX platform on RDC4 cones.
Subtle improvements from the each of the following
RDC4 cones swapped out to Black Ravioli under the S1NX platform
Add on top two S1NX mini platforms with a granite placemat on top of them, 4 x Black Ravioli in each outer corner
Looks somewhere between OCD and ridiculous, maybe both
Sounds great.
Smoother, rounder, more detail, more togetherness
What other craziness is available ?
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 15, 2019 16:58:31 GMT
I try out all sorts that shouldn't work.....
My old Pioneer PD-S703 give great service in the kitchen.
On a whim I took the super duper TAD remote, pointed at the Pioneer.
It works !
Pioneer remote to TAD
That works too
I know TAD is to Pioneer what Lexus is to Toyota, but who'd a thought it.
Now all I have to do is to get the Logitech Harmony working with everything. Or persuade someone with the right type of brain.....
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 15, 2019 17:21:38 GMT
Smoother, rounder, more detail, more togetherness It's interesting Mike but for me, 'smoother' and 'detail' I imagine as polar opposites. When I think of smooth I think of what some call 'pipe and slippers' sound - Quad / Harbeth etc etc The smoothness is like a veil that takes away from the details that make music really exciting and engaging. I'm sure you don't mean this at all, but just the way it comes across to me! |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 15, 2019 19:01:54 GMT
Smooth detail Spoke it as I heard the music Come and have a listen |
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 15, 2019 19:06:55 GMT
A guy brought an amp round for me to dem.
"You'll like this, it sounds really smooth".
I hated it. Just as Jules says. Not sure I can link smooth and detail, either.
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Post by Slinger on Jan 15, 2019 19:37:57 GMT
A guy brought an amp round for me to dem. "You'll like this, it sounds really smooth". I hated it. Just as Jules says. Not sure I can link smooth and detail, either. But if, instead, he'd said it sounded really rough...  |
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 15, 2019 20:14:26 GMT
Ah well, here we have 2 meanings of the word rough.
- colloquially; rough is bad, awful, not good.
- or more in context; not smoothed over, the finer minutiae presented realistically to our perceptions.
Without hearing Mike's system it's impossible to say whether a relative detail freak like me would think it too smoothed over.
Some folks prefer their systems not to present the finer details, but they like to bask in the overall ambience.
Or maybe the word smooth should not be taken with that meaning here.
As long as Mike is happy with what he has got, which somethimg tells me is the case, then all is well.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 16, 2019 10:45:41 GMT
We are limited by our language describing sounds and sound improvement.
Anyone coming round can (I assume) hear the difference and let me know their words
Detail and smoothness is what I say.
The odd album does sound rough as it has been revealed to be so
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Post by Slinger on Jan 16, 2019 13:40:13 GMT
I once described a bass-line as sounding "tubular," so I do understand the problems involved in describing a sound.  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 16, 2019 14:32:02 GMT
We need more words. We need the best words Who could we call on ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 15:18:38 GMT
This is part of the grounding experience, you do obtain a far more open and detailed sound WITHOUT hardness and with the added bonus of really improved fluidity which all contaminates to give smoothness WITHOUY loss of dynamics, speed or detail. imho.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 16, 2019 16:01:23 GMT
You see, I use lack of hardness/harshness quite a lot and it's an important positive criterion for me. I never use 'smoothness', although it could be construed to be the same thing.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 17, 2019 9:54:52 GMT
After another Caravan fest plus some others I had to hear I'm back to the playlist with
Powaqqatsi
Even at low volume initially it was surprising (how often do I say that ?)
More detail, definitely more thump in the bass.
A layer or two has been stripped away. More width as well as space between the instruments.
Sound is wonderful.
Little changed from last play a few days ago
Granite place mat on top of Electric Beach S1NX, other way around before. Doubt much difference there.
One Black Ravioli on each corner on top of the TAD CD.
Black Ravioli replaced the RDC 4 cones under the S1NX platform.
Each a minor change.
Kit and cables working themselves in as well I assume.
Longing to play more
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2019 11:55:31 GMT
Interesting, Mike. I've found that RDCs under the shelf with Black Ravioli directly under the component works best. The BRs definitely need to be in contact as they have some impressive damping properties.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 17, 2019 14:16:34 GMT
Will give RDCs a go as well.
Just cones or base units as well ?
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2019 14:41:26 GMT
I used big RDC cones and base units as I have 8 spare of each. Keeping my 4 spare BR Big Pads for the new DAC. Will need some more for the streamer when it arrives.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 19, 2019 11:03:01 GMT
Forgot I swapped to RDC 4 cones long time ago as better than the standard.
BR a small step up from the RDC 4.
Currently being amazed by the amount of goings on and fantastic music from
Robert Palmer - Some people can do what they like
Noticeably better than when played a few days ago before the minor tweaks and burn in or whatever is going on
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Post by MartinT on Jan 19, 2019 11:40:10 GMT
My gear has gradually settled again after its move. The grounding boxes do not like being disconnected and reconnected! I am convinced that the isolation has improved, which is all good preparation for the new kit.
Effectively, I have three levels of isolation: RDC cones supporting the system rack, RDC cones supporting the EB shelves, BRs supporting the components.
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