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Post by Tim on Mar 6, 2024 9:49:08 GMT
The Zone of Interest. Of course everyone who can see the film should do so, if at all possible. I'm not going to say much more than that about it apart from I've never been affected by sound so much in a film before, both in the music composition and sound effects, foley work etc. Just one masterly aspect of the film which deserves recognition. It made me hyper aware for a while after the film - the sound of my tyres on the road, the detail of water sloshing about in a bottle on the back seat was amplified beyond comprehension and then the sound of the washing machine at home. The sound design is exceptional Jules, Johnnie Burn's work has carved a new trend in cinema sound for me, he also did Poor Things and works a lot with Yorgos Lanthimos who I really rate. Burn gets inside the film rather than just overlaying a score or basic soundtrack - it really should get the Oscar, but I regard the yearly tinsel-town jamboree as more of a novelty these days and not to be taken too seriously. The Zone of Interest is one of those rare gems of cinema, something new . . . which is a hard thing to do these days. Really glad you got to see it in a cinema Jules, definitely a film that deserves the full experience.
I saw Dune: Part 2 yesterday and wow is all I can say. Absolutely stunning and quite emotional in parts, Chalamet really raised the bar with his performance of Paul 'coming of age' as the central character. Gorgeous cinematography and sound, it's very well paced too, but I felt it could have been longer really, as I wanted more. I love the way Villeneuve trusts his audience and keeps exposition to the bare minimum, he's a visual storyteller.
Haven't stopped thinking about it since walking out and I'll be going again - my new film of 2024 
There was one thing I really didn't care for though . . . . Christopher Walken . . . and that's all I'm saying!
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 6, 2024 10:01:23 GMT
Wish the Lensman series could be put to film, well of course EE "Doc" Smith? I read some of them, not bad. I would love some of Iain M. Banks' Culture novels to be tackled, they are Dune scale epics. That's them. Loved all of them They could get multiple series or half a dozen films from them Has to be done well of course Not read Culture although I need to sort my SF books as they are all over the place to double check |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 6, 2024 10:07:11 GMT
The Zone of Interest. Of course everyone who can see the film should do so, if at all possible. I'm not going to say much more than that about it apart from I've never been affected by sound so much in a film before, both in the music composition and sound effects, foley work etc. Just one masterly aspect of the film which deserves recognition. It made me hyper aware for a while after the film - the sound of my tyres on the road, the detail of water sloshing about in a bottle on the back seat was amplified beyond comprehension and then the sound of the washing machine at home. The sound design is exceptional Jules, Johnnie Burn's work has carved a new trend in cinema sound for me, he also did Poor Things and works a lot with Yorgos Lanthimos who I really rate. Burn gets inside the film rather than just overlaying a score or basic soundtrack - it really should get the Oscar, but I regard the yearly tinsel-town jamboree as more of a novelty these days and not to be taken too seriously. The Zone of Interest is one of those rare gems of cinema, something new . . . which is a hard thing to do these days. Really glad you got to see it in a cinema Jules, definitely a film that deserves the full experience.
I saw Dune: Part 2 yesterday and wow is all I can say. Absolutely stunning and quite emotional in parts, Chalamet really raised the bar with his performance of Paul 'coming of age' as the central character. Gorgeous cinematography and sound, it's very well paced too, but I felt it could have been longer really, as I wanted more. I love the way Villeneuve trusts his audience and keeps exposition to the bare minimum, he's a visual storyteller.
Haven't stopped thinking about it since walking out and I'll be going again - my new film of 2024
There was one thing I really didn't care for though . . . . Christopher Walken . . . and that's all I'm saying!
Dammit Tim. I haven't seen Dune 1 yet so might watch that on Netflix tonight so I can try to see part 2 at the cinema if it's that good. |
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Post by Tim on Mar 6, 2024 10:36:24 GMT
I think Dune can be a marmite film for many, 4 friends of mine went (2 couples) and only one of the men liked it, the rest not so much . . . one of the ladies fell asleep!
It's a very complex story, which is why so many have tried and failed in the past - it also really helps if you've read the book. It's Star Wars for adults, in fact the whole Star Wars saga is unashamedly a Dune rip off, which can be viewed two ways? I think you do need to see part 1 first and even then there's no guarantee you'll enjoy either of them. The bigger the screen and sound system the better too, it's a full on visceral experience in the right theatre.
What I will say though, is if you really love cinema and how Villeneuve makes films, then it's a treat. It's also his biggest grossing opening weekend film of his career and currently sits at $182 million worldwide, so word is getting around about Denis Villeneuve with people trusting him enough to go opening weekend. I love him as you probably know.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 6, 2024 10:47:09 GMT
The Dune books were riveting
The boss asked me quite a few questions about the film after we watched it - which I already knew from the books
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 6, 2024 10:58:06 GMT
I think Dune can be a marmite film for many, 4 friends of mine went (2 couples) and only one of the men liked it, the rest not so much . . . one of the ladies fell asleep!
It's a very complex story, which is why so many have tried and failed in the past - it also really helps if you've read the book. It's Star Wars for adults, in fact the whole Star Wars saga is unashamedly a Dune rip off, which can be viewed two ways? I think you do need to see part 1 first and even then there's no guarantee you'll enjoy either of them. The bigger the screen and sound system the better too, it's a full on visceral experience in the right theatre.
What I will say though, is if you really love cinema and how Villeneuve makes films, then it's a treat. It's also his biggest grossing opening weekend film of his career and currently sits at $182 million worldwide, so word is getting around about Denis Villeneuve with people trusting him enough to go opening weekend. I love him as you probably know.
I will keep an open mind but I was left a little cold by BR 2049 so not sure what to expect from Dune. I do hope to enjoy the technical side of it. They had the old ruse of using some vintage lenses to create a look and texture. Commercials directors have been doing this for decades and as much as anything creates a story in itself like this - kosmofoto.com/2024/03/dune-2-was-partly-shot-on-vintage-soviet-camera-lenses/ |
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Post by Tim on Mar 6, 2024 11:12:05 GMT
Yeah, that's the thing you see, BR 2049 is an absolute masterpiece for me - up there with my favourite films of all time. I saw that 7 times at the cinema and nearly as many at home since. In fact after seeing it the first time, I went straight to the box office and got a ticket for the next screening and went straight back in! Villeneuve can't put a foot wrong in my book, so if you didn't really enjoy BR 2049, Dune might not work . . . if you haven't read the books, I'd say it would be an even higher chance of not working. You might want to try and find my favourite Villeneuve film, which is much lesser known and I'd wager more likely to be your thing? A very, very different experience to his sci-fi films.
Incendies
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 6, 2024 11:34:13 GMT
Excellent, I will watch this soon enough, have found it on Amazon. Maybe it's on terrestrial somewhere ...
Sicario is a film I very much liked but wouldn't be on a list of my favourite films.
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Post by Slinger on Mar 6, 2024 14:18:53 GMT
Obviously I haven't see it yet, so can't comment, but one review I read intrigued me, it said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "...but have I just watched the second part of Denis Villeneuve's Dune trilogy?".
Re BR 2049, I watched the 3D Blu-ray (yes, I know, you all think 3D is an abomination) and it was, to my mind, one of the best movies made even better by the addition of 3D technology.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 6, 2024 14:39:13 GMT
BR 2049 and Dune are superb examples of Villeneuve's art, and the Dick/Herbert books are equally superb. I also think Arrival is wonderful and I also loved the Ted Chiang short story.
Could Villeneuve not only be a great director but also able to visualise worthy novels for transfer to the big screen? In so few films, he has done so much.
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Post by Tim on Mar 6, 2024 14:45:18 GMT
Obviously I haven't see it yet, so cant comment, but one review I read intrigued me, it said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "...but have I just watched the second part of Denis Villeneuve's Dune trilogy?". Re BR 2049, I watched the 3D Blu-ray (yes, I know, you all think 3D is an abomination) and it was, to my mind, one of the best movies made even better by the addition of 3D technology. Yes, it is part two as Villeneuve is already working on the script for Dune Messiah (his words). To do Dune any justice, he really has to do Dune Messiah as well, but after that? . . . if it keeps going it'll probably turn into a franchise nonsense series of mediocre trash, like all long running franchises tend to end up. Villeneuve has said he's not going any further than Messiah. It's not been officially signed off publicly by the studios to my knowledge, but I'd be astonished if there isn't a Villeneuve Dune Messiah.
Never saw BR 2049 in 3D but I do agree it's one fo the best movies ever made.
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 6, 2024 15:22:10 GMT
I must have seen a different film than you guys  Ok I will watch BR again in 4k once I've got this Dune malarkey out of the way .... Going to try and watch Part 1 tonight. |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 6, 2024 17:42:51 GMT
Ok I will watch BR again in 4k once I've got this Dune malarkey out of the way .... Going to try and watch Part 1 tonight. You might want to refresh your memory with the utterly brilliant original BR before watching 2049, then you will see all the clues and references. |
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Post by Slinger on Mar 6, 2024 18:02:06 GMT
I think the main problem people had with BR 2049 (if problems they had) was that it wasn't Blade Runner, nor was it intended to be.
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Post by Tim on Mar 6, 2024 18:28:24 GMT
I think BR 2049 is closer to art-house than mainstream cinema and as you say Paul, it's not BR - it has a depth the original film never had and Deakins cinematography is jaw droppingly gorgeous. Both films are milestones of cinema and that's not just my opinion. I love both, possibly BR 2049 a bit more, but it would be a toss up and can change depending on my mood . . . but they are very different films and of their time.
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 6, 2024 22:01:09 GMT
Dune: Part 1
Exquisitely crafted.
Some moments of truly incandescent and extravagant beauty. So many immaculate photographic compositions - early in the film I'm oft reminded of one of my favourite Renaissance artists, El Greco, with his seemingly other worldly elongated bodies.
Even old Hans Zimmer pulled his finger out and delivered a jaw dropping soundtrack which is almost divinely inspired. Sounded beautiful in stereo, I can only imagine the visceral impact in the cinema.
The film leaves you demanding more ...
Dune 2 - the only question for me is when and where.
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Post by Tim on Mar 7, 2024 17:01:44 GMT
Dune: Part 1 Exquisitely crafted. Some moments of truly incandescent and extravagant beauty. So many immaculate photographic compositions - early in the film I'm oft reminded of one of my favourite Renaissance artists, El Greco, with his seemingly other worldly elongated bodies. Even old Hans Zimmer pulled his finger out and delivered a jaw dropping soundtrack which is almost divinely inspired. Sounded beautiful in stereo, I can only imagine the visceral impact in the cinema. The film leaves you demanding more ... Dune 2 - the only question for me is when and where. Yup, you've totally got Villeneuve's craft summed up there Jules and I can tell you it is a visceral experience in the cinema, especially if you go big.
I just went big again and saw it on a Cineworld SuperScreen for the second time - I enjoyed it even more the second time around, it's truly exquisite cinema. I'm sorely tempted to go for the third time next week . . . we'll see?
What I can say is Dune: Part 2 leaves you right on the edge wanting even more!
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Post by Tim on Mar 7, 2024 17:04:26 GMT
oh, and Christopher Walken . . . . still the weakest link for me, in fact he was even worse second time around!
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Post by Slinger on Mar 7, 2024 17:05:41 GMT
oh, and Christopher Walken . . . . still the weakest link for me, in fact he was even worse second time around! But did he dance? |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 7, 2024 17:17:22 GMT
Dune: Part 1 Exquisitely crafted. Some moments of truly incandescent and extravagant beauty. So many immaculate photographic compositions - early in the film I'm oft reminded of one of my favourite Renaissance artists, El Greco, with his seemingly other worldly elongated bodies. Even old Hans Zimmer pulled his finger out and delivered a jaw dropping soundtrack which is almost divinely inspired. Sounded beautiful in stereo, I can only imagine the visceral impact in the cinema. The film leaves you demanding more ... Dune 2 - the only question for me is when and where. Yup, you've totally got Villeneuve's craft summed up there Jules and I can tell you it is a visceral experience in the cinema, especially if you go big.
I just went big again and saw it on a Cineworld SuperScreen for the second time - I enjoyed it even more the second time around, it's truly exquisite cinema. I'm sorely tempted to go for the third time next week . . . we'll see?
What I can say is Dune: Part 2 leaves you right on the edge wanting even more!
I've booked to see Part 2 this Sunday on a Cineworld SuperScreen - really looking forward to it! |
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