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Post by rfan8312 on Dec 27, 2022 22:59:28 GMT
Much to think about with All Quiet... Very much a visceral film about the human experience of the common soldier, it's certainly an excellent film but is painted in very broad strokes as it were ... I don't think it can be considered the definitive account of the conflict as there is so much more to tell. Maybe that film will never be made. Agreed with all points here. I enjoyed this film but tbh I wouldn't recommend it to people unless they were very interested in WW1. There's so much misery to see here and gore. Maybe the definitive account could only be told in a multipart series or a trilogy. The book by Barbara Tuchman 'The Guns Of August' is a masterpiece because her research is unlike any I'd seen before. The reader gets what feels like a God's eye view of even the tiniest details and conversations and also the larger events that led up to the war and the book concludes just as the first shots are about to be fired. Something like her account would make a good first part of the trilogy. This film here 'All Quiet and The Western Front' might serve as the 3rd part. The second part I think could be not just the misery of the soldiers but of the stupidity of those in charge and how careless they were with soldiers lives as well as depicting what they called "the race to the sea". Both sides trying to turn each other's flank to the west in order to be the first to reach the coast. Jules if you could here or in private could you mention which elements you would have liked to see or that would be critical to show in a definitive account of WW1? |
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 28, 2022 11:06:24 GMT
I won't be watching it
Too real
Blackadder goes forth summed it up well with humour and misery
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 28, 2022 12:02:28 GMT
Much to think about with All Quiet... Very much a visceral film about the human experience of the common soldier, it's certainly an excellent film but is painted in very broad strokes as it were ... I don't think it can be considered the definitive account of the conflict as there is so much more to tell. Maybe that film will never be made. Agreed with all points here. I enjoyed this film but tbh I wouldn't recommend it to people unless they were very interested in WW1. There's so much misery to see here and gore. Maybe the definitive account could only be told in a multipart series or a trilogy. The book by Barbara Tuchman 'The Guns Of August' is a masterpiece because her research is unlike any I'd seen before. The reader gets what feels like a God's eye view of even the tiniest details and conversations and also the larger events that led up to the war and the book concludes just as the first shots are about to be fired. Something like her account would make a good first part of the trilogy. This film here 'All Quiet and The Western Front' might serve as 3rd the part. The second part I think could be not just the misery of the soldiers but of the stupidity of those in charge and how careless they were with soldiers lives as well as depicting what they called "the race to the sea". Both sides trying to turn each other's flank to the west in order to be the first to reach the coast. Jules if you could here or in private could you mention which elements you would have liked to see or that would be critical to show in a definitive account of WW1? Gosh that is difficult - I will have a think and get back to you when I have finished my travels... |
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Post by rfan8312 on Dec 30, 2022 3:02:06 GMT
Thank you Jules. Only if you have time.
Really struggling with Seven Samurai. It feels so dated that my processing equipment is nearly incompatible with this operating system.
Maybe there is something to learn here. I will see it through to the end but then it's right back to explosions and car chases. I already have Fast and Furious 9 on standby.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 30, 2022 9:29:05 GMT
Ugh! The original F&F was a fun homage to JDM cars. It was fun and all about the cars. Later films became a travesty of the original concept. Paul Walker died of a horrific accident before the 7th one was completed. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 30, 2022 9:55:07 GMT
Really struggling with Seven Samurai. It feels so dated that my processing equipment is nearly incompatible with this operating system. Maybe there is something to learn here. I will see it through to the end but ten it's right back to explosions and car chases. Some of the battle scenes are epic, especially those in the rain. Real rain. The film was almost called off as a result The swordsman was - a swordsman - not an actor Can't say anymore for fear of spoiling it The black and white reinforces the grimness of it all to me |
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 30, 2022 10:28:43 GMT
Really struggling with Seven Samurai. It feels so dated that my processing equipment is nearly incompatible with this operating system. Maybe there is something to learn here. I will see it through to the end but ten it's right back to explosions and car chases. Some of the battle scenes are epic, especially those in the rain. Real rain. The film was almost called off as a result The swordsman was - a swordsman - not an actor Can't say anymore for fear of spoiling it The black and white reinforces the grimness of it all to me Absolutely. The atmosphere it creates is remarkable, so intense. I also remember the characterization, the etched looks on their faces ... One of the greats for me. |
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Post by rfan8312 on Dec 30, 2022 20:46:45 GMT
Really struggling with Seven Samurai. It feels so dated that my processing equipment is nearly incompatible with this operating system. Maybe there is something to learn here. I will see it through to the end but ten it's right back to explosions and car chases. Some of the battle scenes are epic, especially those in the rain. Real rain. The film was almost called off as a result The swordsman was - a swordsman - not an actor Can't say anymore for fear of spoiling it The black and white reinforces the grimness of it all to me This sounds pretty good. Will begin again tonight. Absolutely Martin That first FF was pretty cool by part 10 they were flying cars into space strapped to rockets. Just super cheesey fluff that wasn't even good fluff. |
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Post by yorkshireman on Dec 30, 2022 22:32:10 GMT
Best film / documentry I have watched in a long time was Ennio - The MaestroIf you like films and Ennio soundtracks, this really is a great watch, fills in so much detail about the maestro you may not have known
His thinking when scoring a movie etc and also his life.
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Post by speedysteve on Dec 30, 2022 23:08:49 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 2, 2023 16:47:40 GMT
We liked
Spectral
a lot
Can't give much detail without spoiling it
Gritty, visceral, scifi on the edge of where we might be going
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 2, 2023 16:56:35 GMT
You want remarkable Good start here IMDb Top 250 MoviesI'm tired of scrolling through all the Prime and Netflix stuff for mediocrity Some real treasures in there |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 2, 2023 17:52:29 GMT
You see, any public opinion list that gives a Batman film 3rd place overall is going to get short shrift from me.
I find IMDB an extremely useful website, but I take the ratings with a heavy dose of caution.
Just scrolling through Netflix and Prime yields hidden treasures, followed up by a bit of looking up.
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Post by Slinger on Jan 2, 2023 18:15:13 GMT
You see, any public opinion list that gives a Batman film 3rd place overall is going to get short shrift from me... But it was the same people who voted all the other films into place in the poll, so perhaps you need to actually see it before condemning it out of hand. Having said that, the list is comprised of films people actually watch in great numbers, rather than being full of " worthy" Tarkovskyl, Bergman, and Kurosawa efforts that are more spoken about then seen. Note the " As rated by regular IMDb voters." Some have actually called Director Christopher Nolan and his co-writer Jonathan Nolan's film "Shakespearian" in depth, and Heath Ledger's performance was supposedly the best of his short life. I haven't bothered to watch it either.  |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 2, 2023 20:16:50 GMT
The Godfather pt. II, Schindler's List, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Three different genres, all superb of their type.
All rated below the Batman thing.
'nuff said.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 2, 2023 20:43:46 GMT
There's some I wouldn't watch, have tried and wouldn't give a second chance to
More importantly there are a few I don't know that have to be worth a punt
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Post by rfan8312 on Jan 2, 2023 21:01:36 GMT
I've the seen The Dark Knight. It really is a Christoper Nolan film in aesthetic and has that kind of weight to it. The opening scene is thrilling and impressive and does not include Batman.
Though tbh I think Heath Ledger's performance. While very cool. Is a bit overrated.
And unfortunately Bruce Wayne's Batman voice is insufferable it nearly turns any scene he is in into a parody.
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 3, 2023 9:53:48 GMT
I'm sorry but nothing beats Adam West and Burt Ward  Damn I loved that show as a kid. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 7, 2023 8:38:17 GMT
Ring (1998)
An incredibly influential and successful Japanese psychological horror which deals in some potent themes for the country including the repression of the past in the quest for modernity.
A great watch and at times properly unsettling; it managed to mess with my head for a while after ending. An absolute must if you have any interest in the genre or Japanese culture.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 7, 2023 9:59:05 GMT
Good chiller, Ring.
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Damn I loved that show as a kid.