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Post by canetoad on Dec 24, 2016 7:07:58 GMT
I just put together a PC for my son to do some gaming on. I installed Windows 10 this afternoon and when I was asked for the activation key I noticed that there wasn't one included anywhere in the envelope with the installation disc. I installed without it but to personalize my environment it says I have to activate windows first. What the hell is going on! Why don't I have an activation key? Anybody else experienced this?
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Post by MartinT on Dec 24, 2016 8:44:24 GMT
You get an activation key when you buy a copy of W10. It's not free any more.
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Post by pre65 on Dec 24, 2016 9:19:23 GMT
If you install on a computer that previously had W10 the code is held in the "memory".
I bought a used laptop that had the hard drive wiped, but because W10 had been installed before the new, downloaded installation was accepted.
I see W10 installation discs on Ebay for £7 ish and they come with a COA, that's what I would do if I needed to. 
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Post by MartinT on Dec 24, 2016 13:05:19 GMT
W10 has hardware recognition and will reinstall onto the same hardware without complaint. It also recognises/remembers you through the Microsoft account. See here for all the possibilities. |
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Post by canetoad on Dec 24, 2016 23:08:51 GMT
I bought the Win10 installation from the reseller! It has no activation key with it! I've already paid $150 for it and I'm not going to buy it again.
I can't go back to the store till next week because of the Christmas break. I was wondering if anybody else has had a similar problem.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2017 16:33:24 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 16, 2017 17:16:38 GMT
Vista (shudder)
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2017 18:20:59 GMT
Indeed!
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2017 19:00:49 GMT
I think Guest runs vista
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:01:04 GMT
I run Vista and it is very stable and very quick. I don't keep sensitive information on the pc. I run a number of applications which I'm not sure would work on Windows 10. Office 2003 does everything I need for spreadsheets and word processing (I speak as a long-term spreadsheet user having started pre Windows and then Lotus 123, then Boorland Quatro Pro). I tested Windows v1 when it first came out. I use Windows 7 at work, it is very similar to Vista in the user interface. I use Windows 10 at the charity I run, it is very slow and difficult to find the commands I need. It also crashes occasionally. Why would I want to change? |
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2017 19:07:44 GMT
If you use the net after 11th April you will no longer get updates from Windows to protect you. W10 is very stable on everything I run it with but understand if you using a lot of old hardwware and you have no wish to update. Just remember you are no longer going to be protected on the net so back up everything and fingers crossed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:19:17 GMT
If you use the net after 11th April you will no longer get updates from Windows to protect you. W10 is very stable on everything I run it with but understand if you using a lot of old hardwware and you have no wish to update. Just remember you are no longer going to be protected on the net so back up everything and fingers crossed In my experience W10 is less stable than Vista, but that's just my experience. I still run XP on my netbook and have never had any issues. What am I going to be "protected" from? I only use the pc to surf the web, run non-critical applications, online shopping etc.. If someone manages to get my credit card details then big deal - my credit limit is relatively small and I check my statements regularly. Given that, as revealed by Wikileaks, the CIA have lost control over their malware and have people working in every major software company putting back-doors into most major applications, I don't really think I am much safer using Windows 10 to be honest. I'm not playing the game of upgrading all the time, I don't see the benefit. It strikes me as a bit of a con. |
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2017 19:24:24 GMT
Well if you have a old machine w10 may not perform at its best
I had vista and hated every second of it but good to hear it works for you
I do advise you to back up your data
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:30:49 GMT
Well if you have a old machine w10 may not perform at its best I had vista and hated every second of it but good to hear it works for you I do advise you to back up your data I have a relatively new machine and I do back up my data. I've lived through every version of Windows, I also understand how the business model of Microsoft works. |
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2017 19:38:25 GMT
I got it free and been clich free on my PC(music server), laptop, tablet and phone They all work with each other. I have very fast start up time etc.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2017 21:49:15 GMT
I use Windows 7 at work, it is very similar to Vista in the user interface. The reality is that Windows 7 is very nearly as vulnerable as Vista. Vista is obsolete and 7 is no longer being recommended by Microsoft for the working environment. The big gain you are getting with Windows 10 is security, the second gain (given adequate hardware) is better performance. As for stability, W10 is at least as good and much better in the long run as it has banished any need for a major rebuild once a year due to its better clean-up abilities. My experience from looking after a whole fleet of W10 client machines is that W10 is a step change improvement in lower vulnerability and stability. It is much more resistant to malware and has better recovery options. Even running on 6 year old hardware, it's very usable. On modern hardware like a Surface Pro 4 it's incredibly slick and responsive. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 22:09:31 GMT
I use Windows 7 at work, it is very similar to Vista in the user interface. The reality is that Windows 7 is very nearly as vulnerable as Vista. Vista is obsolete and 7 is no longer being recommended by Microsoft for the working environment. The big gain you are getting with Windows 10 is security, the second gain (given adequate hardware) is better performance. As for stability, W10 is at least as good and much better in the long run as it has banished any need for a major rebuild once a year due to its better clean-up abilities. My experience from looking after a whole fleet of W10 client machines is that W10 is a step change improvement in lower vulnerability and stability. It is much more resistant to malware and has better recovery options. Even running on 6 year old hardware, it's very usable. On modern hardware like a Surface Pro 4 it's incredibly slick and responsive. How many machines do you have at work? Is it more or less than 5,000 ;-) |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2017 22:11:15 GMT
About 350 plus 15 servers. Why, what does that tell you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 22:15:40 GMT
About 350 plus 15 servers. Why, what does that tell you? Isn't that obvious? |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 17, 2017 6:24:36 GMT
No, not at all. How do the requirements for client machine stability and performance change between 350 and 5,000? When I covered all of Europe in a previous role those requirements were remarkably similar.
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