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Post by stanleyb on Oct 1, 2014 6:05:49 GMT
Start Menu back.
Other features include:
Windows 10 The task-view button offers one-click access to all running apps and files
Snap enhancements - a new "quadrant layout" will allow four apps to be easily arranged on the same screen
Task view - a new button on the task bar will let the user see all open apps and files, helping them switch from one to another
Multiple desktops - users can switch between distinct desktop screens, allowing them to group related work together rather than having to deal with a single screen overloaded with documents and apps. This is similar to a feature already available on Apple's Mac OS
Microsoft will offer a "technical preview" of Windows 10 to early adopters later this week, which will run on laptops and desktops. A release that will work on computer servers will follow.
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Post by John on Oct 1, 2014 11:01:49 GMT
Was reading about this yesterday
Looks interesting does not seem long since windows 8 came out
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2014 11:29:58 GMT
I'm at a Microsoft seminar now. On first look, Windows 10 looks totally unified across platforms (including Phone), totally integrates the W7 and W8.1 experience, and looks fab. I'm already drawing up my migration plans and this will allow me to bypass W8.1 for older laptops where staff training would be too onerous. Go to preview.windows.com and you will be able to download a preview version shortly. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 11:59:42 GMT
I use Vista at home on my PC, which is now very stable after SP2 came out. At work we use Windows 7, which seems better than XP, more stable in a network environment and much quicker to boot. My netbook runs XP fine.
These upgrades are a con to get customers to hand over more money. Unless there is a pressing need to upgrade, such as requiring support, then I'll stick with the devil I know.
Office 2010 is far inferior to Office 2003 and 2007. Anyone thinking of upgrading Office should think twice, it's an absolute mess and even after having used it for a couple of years I still struggle to find the functions quickly.
I miss Boreland Quattro Pro and WordPerfect 5.1!
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Post by Dave on Oct 1, 2014 13:44:32 GMT
I use Vista at home on my PC, which is now very stable after SP2 came out. At work we use Windows 7, which seems better than XP, more stable in a network environment and much quicker to boot. My netbook runs XP fine. These upgrades are a con to get customers to hand over more money. Unless there is a pressing need to upgrade, such as requiring support, then I'll stick with the devil I know. Office 2010 is far inferior to Office 2003 and 2007. Anyone thinking of upgrading Office should think twice, it's an absolute mess and even after having used it for a couple of years I still struggle to find the functions quickly. I miss Boreland Quattro Pro and WordPerfect 5.1! I'm glad I am not alone in this Lawrence, IMO Office 2007 is the best of the bunch as it is so intuitive to use. As for Win8 I'm happy to have skipped it, we'll see what 10 brings to the party but I'm not holding my breath as it has been developed in a hurry so I expect it to be buggy from launch. Perhaps it'll be okay in about three to four years time, eh?
We have a couple of machines running Vista in the house and frankly both of them are very stable, more so than the Win7 machines actually 
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Post by danielquinn on Oct 1, 2014 13:53:36 GMT
Well i .........snnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Sorry folks nodded off  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 14:16:26 GMT
What happened to Windows 9?  |
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Post by John on Oct 1, 2014 14:30:33 GMT
I like office 2013 using power point is so much simpler to add video clips etc.
But agree does sometimes seem like a way to get money
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 1, 2014 14:40:22 GMT
Is it me or is time moving faster ? I'm getting used to 7, still using older at work too One day they will have all the features that were in DESQview X I so loved using DESQview. Multiple windows on a 286 and all sorts. Plus is was *fast* |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2014 15:43:43 GMT
What a lot of old stick-in-the-muds!  (never used the zzz smiley before)
I guess it's my industry so it turns me on more than most, but you're all missing the point. What Windows 8.1/10 and Office 2013 give you is interconnectivity, full synchronisation and having everything of yours available everywhere. The Microsoft Account ensures that the calendar entry you made on your desktop carries through to your phone, complete with spoken reminder by Cortana. That document you saved into OneDrive from an e-mail received on your phone is there for you when you are next using your tablet on the train, connected to the net automatically via Bluetooth from the phone that remains in your pocket, untouched. When you get home later, you open Word 2013 on your desktop and it tells you exactly which line you were last working on.
You don't buy machinery with vast storage any more, because all your stuff is in OneDrive cloud storage which Microsoft charges you precisely nothing for. It's safe, very much safer than if left on a computer when the house goes up in flames. All those family photos, priceless to you but just so many files to anyone else. You take a photo with your Windows Phone and it automatically uploads to OneDrive even before you've opened eBay to post it as a sales image. Backups are a thing of the past since everything you do goes to the cloud.
You buy a brand shiny new machine. You fire it up, login with your Microsoft Account and within 10 minutes you have a machine which picks up all your customisations, app, tiles, e-mail, calendar, files and even your start screen and background wallpapers.
I could go on, but there's no need. You either see this new connected world or you don't. However, instead of being grumpy old men, I say embrace the future. Technology CAN make your life and your business easier! |
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Post by Tim on Oct 1, 2014 17:09:38 GMT
I was quite happy with Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22, don't understand all this new fangled nonsense  (I am joking . . . . ) |
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Post by pre65 on Oct 1, 2014 17:15:07 GMT
I was quite happy with Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22, don't understand all this new fangled nonsense (I am joking . . . . )You might be, but XP did just what a lot of people needed, and judging by the numbers that still use it, still does. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2014 18:36:22 GMT
At today's seminar one hand went up when asked whether they still have XP installations. Boy, that guy has a lot of migration planning to get done in a short space of time. Folly!
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2014 18:37:25 GMT
I was quite happy with Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22 |
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Post by stanleyb on Oct 1, 2014 19:52:37 GMT
The ideal OS for me would be W7 with W8 speed.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2014 20:31:15 GMT
The ideal OS for me would be W7 with W8 speed. Then I suspect W10 will fit your needs. W8.1 on an SSD drive is the way to go for the moment. |
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Post by stanleyb on Oct 2, 2014 6:35:02 GMT
Well I just spent a small fortune upgrading four of our W7 laptops with another set of Sony Vaio W8 models. The Vaio Restore partition is not something to be messed with. One of the laptops is a Vaio Pro 13, which came with W8. I upgraded it with W8.1 and ran into an instant problem. The Sony restore partition crashed, and the touchscreen driver stopped working. I have it in a corner of my bedroom right now, regretting my mistake to upgrade from W8 to 8.1. So upgrades are off the menu for me for a while.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 2, 2014 7:21:58 GMT
In our experience Sony are the most difficult laptops to support because of the amount of crap they install and the unusual drivers for things like the touch screen. I think you'll find that you have to install W8.1 from scratch, deleting all existing partitions, and then it'll behave fine. We do that with all of our Lenovos, never using the existing installations.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 2, 2014 7:25:36 GMT
Playing with our W10 test-bed laptop today, I really think it's going to mirror the success of W7. There's nothing not to like here, XP, Vista and W7 users will find it easy to use while W8/8.1 users will still be able to run their favourite apps, only they can be maximised to run full-screen as before or run in a window on the desktop, making them function like old fashioned applications. The feeling of seamlessness and integration, even in this early Tech Preview, is very good.
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Post by Tim on Oct 2, 2014 14:31:44 GMT
In our experience Sony are the most difficult laptops to support because of the amount of crap they install and the unusual drivers for things like the touch screen. Horrible things VAIO laptops IMO. I have had countless laptop makes over the years and I bought a VAIO which lasted about a month before I put it on eBay. As you say the bloatware on there is terrible and when you install your own O/S to try and achieve a clean install, getting the drivers from their website was a nightmare (this was a few years ago, might have improved?), so I binned it. Would never consider another one again for myself, might be OK for those that never upgrade or change hardware or reinstall an O/S, but if you do there are easier options out there. W10 certainly looks good so far |
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