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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 5, 2014 13:02:26 GMT
at what point in the boot up are you classing your computer booted up? I ask because my figure would be meaningless to you if I don't know your ruling on this. It is not the case that when the home screen apears you are fully ready to go. That is just a visual not yet giving you it's undevided attention, as background operations are ongoing.
We can't either compare by saying how soon to start from cold and post a comment on this forum. As that varies acoording to connectivity.
We could perhaps set as a standard a time taken to open the character map, or some other thing that requires no internet.
Anyone al;ready have a benchmark or shall we decide on one.
then let's find out the truth.
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 5, 2014 14:42:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 14:53:18 GMT
As an aside, how private are private messages on this forum ? We (Administrators) cannot access them. ProBoards Admins can, but only to rescue situations. I have seen them asked about copying a forum Administrator (of another forum) on a PM and they've refused. So I would say that PMs are as private as your personal e-mail account(!)
I agree with Chris and John, I would never wish to read a member's PMs. I can name at least one hi-fi forum where PMs are regularly read as I was kicked out on the basis of what I said in private to another member. In the public interest they should be named and shamed. A lot of members here use or have used all the main forums from time to time. |
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Post by pre65 on Oct 5, 2014 15:05:49 GMT
We (Administrators) cannot access them. ProBoards Admins can, but only to rescue situations. I have seen them asked about copying a forum Administrator (of another forum) on a PM and they've refused. So I would say that PMs are as private as your personal e-mail account(!)
I agree with Chris and John, I would never wish to read a member's PMs. I can name at least one hi-fi forum where PMs are regularly read as I was kicked out on the basis of what I said in private to another member. In the public interest they should be named and shamed. A lot of members here use or have used all the main forums from time to time. Agreed. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 5, 2014 15:15:03 GMT
Chaps: I hear you and will take it under advisement.
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 5, 2014 17:10:55 GMT
I wouldn't bother, as it is probable that on most forums individuals with access to PM's will read a selection. If there is an issue on the public area they will scan PM's to see if they can find a trend and nip it in the bud.
If I wanted to say something privately it wouldn't be in what is laughably called a pm.
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 5, 2014 17:13:20 GMT
Now back on topic. how do you judge when your operating system has completed booting up?
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Post by Slinger on Oct 5, 2014 17:29:36 GMT
Just a quick FYI - Admins cannot DIRECTLY read PMs on phpBB and vBulletin based boards, as a quick search on their respective support forums will confirm. This is not to say, however, that with a bit of technical know-how someone with admin access cannot dig out PM details (by directly querying the board database for instance) but it takes a concerted effort and is not a "feature" of unmodified boards.
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Post by Tim on Oct 5, 2014 18:08:09 GMT
Now back on topic. how do you judge when your operating system has completed booting up? I believe it is 'generally' accepted amongst the geek community that this is the time taken from hitting the power button to the point when the windows desktop/home/login screen appears, but as you rightly point out a number of start-up processes will still be underway at the point the home screen appears. There are a large number of YouTube videos which compare Windows PC boot times and I have never seen one which does not use this benchmark. Additionally, I have yet to meet another geek (I work in IT) who uses a different method and O/S boot times have become very de rigueur since the advent of the SSD and Windows 8, as this combination has reduced them significantly. |
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 5, 2014 18:14:38 GMT
In that case, I shall give you my windows 7 pro boot time from my SSD. Give me a moment!
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 5, 2014 18:24:31 GMT
23 seconds. I am happy with that.
Whereas my work CF19 running Windows XP (at present but in about a month I am having mine upgraded, many have been done already) isn't a fair comparrison because you can't actually get into anything but the work program so I have to give you a figure for the moment my desktop I work from is completely loaded.
7 minutes 26 seconds.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 5, 2014 18:27:56 GMT
Chaps: I hear you and will take it under advisement. Just to close this one off, the forum in question is Vinyl Engine and they openly state in their site policy:
So an innocent mention of another forum within a PM to a member was deemed 'spam' (clearly the owner doesn't understand the definition of spam) and I was given no recourse or chance to explain, just immediately banned. So much for 'private' - you have been warned.
I will reiterate that there is no way for TAS Admins to read PMs, it's a feature of the ProBoards system and we have no access to the database. In our case, private means private.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 5, 2014 18:29:38 GMT
23 seconds. I am happy with that. Whereas my work CF19 running Windows XP (at present but in about a month I am having mine upgraded, many have been done already) isn't a fair comparrison because you can't actually get into anything but the work program so I have to give you a figure for the moment my desktop I work from is completely loaded. 7 minutes 26 seconds. About 8s for my W8.1 system with SSD here. Power up to login screen. |
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Post by Tim on Oct 5, 2014 18:56:27 GMT
Same as Martin, with an SSD in the same machine loading W7 takes just over 20s, but with W8.1 its around 9s. Have not tried my copy of W10 yet.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 5, 2014 19:07:23 GMT
W10 will have debug code until it's finalised, so not fair to measure its performance too closely right now.
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Post by Paul Barker on Oct 5, 2014 19:12:03 GMT
they're going in the right direction then.
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Post by pre65 on Oct 5, 2014 19:12:20 GMT
So, Windows 7 is 11 seconds slower than 8.1 to boot up ?
In my world that is insignificant.
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Post by Tim on Oct 5, 2014 19:22:25 GMT
In mine too, just a bit of fun. I still use W7 more than W8 at the moment on my desktop, I can swap drives over as they are on removable trays. W8 runs on my music server exclusively.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 27, 2014 20:30:14 GMT
The more I play with W10, the more I like it. What's really surprising is how stable it is. Unlike many previous Tech Preview / Beta releases, you can actually do work with it.
However - for my Surface 2 tablet, I think W10 may be a backward step. I like W8.1 on it, it's just right and the full screen apps suit touch perfectly.
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 28, 2014 8:51:36 GMT
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