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Post by Tim on May 2, 2023 22:42:04 GMT
Haha, I'm not normally known for my patience!
It's actually not been a problem, I've enjoyed the learning experience a lot and it finally spurred me on to get away from Windows, which I've wanted to do for sometime, so it's been a catalyst.
The music server with MC27 won't change now for sometime, it's very stable and does all I need, it serves a Rasperry Pi with an Allo DigiOne running Volumio (thanks Martin). I think I mentioned before I prefer a network bridge.
But I do like to have JRiver on my desktop computer as well, so if I want to run the latest version of Mint I needed a newer version than MC27. That machine will actually be running LMDE 5 now, which is a Debian based version of Linux Mint rather than the regular Ubuntu based Mint. I'm getting nerdy now, so I'll get my coat!
Not heard of Daphile before, thanks for mentioning it. Seems interesting, so I might look into that at some point.
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Post by stellabagpuss on May 3, 2023 6:56:23 GMT
Daphile is also Linux based os. It appeals to myself as it designed for USB playback,and apprantly very stable.
l can only vouch for the operation side of it,as browsing though local files on a SSD drive is fast,like Jriver, and one of my hates with Volumio 3 as its so slow.
Anyway..l will report back when things start happening at my end.
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Post by Tim on May 3, 2023 9:24:37 GMT
I'll be interested on what you find out with Daphile.
I agree Volumio on it's own as a standalone streamer isn't fast, really only good for small libraries directly attached to it, but as a DLNA renderer it's very different. Using it like that and it's very good indeed.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jun 4, 2023 18:41:25 GMT
I finally cracked it Tim... I now have Jriver MC29 running on Dabian 11.7.
Looking forward to the next stages of learning
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Post by Tim on Jun 4, 2023 20:59:15 GMT
That's the easy bit done then - now it's getting the best from the end point.
I'm currently running Volumio on a Raspberry Pi 2, with an Allo DigiOne HAT powered by a 5V lithium battery. Sounds pretty good to my old ears, enough to stop me tinkering for awhile anyway. I'm still using JRiver 27 on my Debian server. Didn't really need the licence for MC31 after all . . . doh!
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jun 5, 2023 16:36:39 GMT
Well firstly, thanks to Tim for guidance on all of this.
So finally got Jriver on Linux running though Volumio 3. l won't repeat what's Tim has already posted as instructions
I kinda of lashed together everything, so not the best leads, more of a case of let's get it working.
Had a few minor issues,but TBH rebooted my NUC, and the issues haven't surfaced again,l am guessing l was to keen to use,instead of rebooting after making changes.
l am really pleased, as now l have Hybrid of Jriver and more importantly the sound signature that l enjoy from Volumio 3.
lt's enjoyable off the bat, not quite as good yet, as Local files replay,but the first time l have enjoyed the sound via a Network. l am pretty confident,that once l have implemented other mods,l have it all singing.
I can highly recommend Tim's method for using Volumio this way, l am guessing, that had myself, or indeed others been aware, they would have been really pleased with this method.
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Post by Tim on Jun 5, 2023 20:07:59 GMT
I find it a good combination so good to know I'm not going mad and someone else agrees  Having said that, I can't recall anyone here saying Volumio itself sounded crap, just that using Volumio was a less than enjoyable experience, which I totally agree with. I think even Jules said he thought it sounded good. Volumio on it's own is like fighting a python, just when you think you've got it beat, it sheds it's skin, escapes and snarls you up again. JRiver keeps it under control though, so no more wrangling needed. |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jun 5, 2023 20:51:31 GMT
I agree, perhaps your method will help change perceptions.
Love the Python analogy...
Well worth a punt in my view, and look forward to playing further
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jun 20, 2023 20:08:32 GMT
Small update Debian wise, l recently swapped my NUC,Dabian 11.7 run fine on my Gigabyte Brix N4000.
However l have run into a few issues using my newer Gigabyte Brix N5150 NUC.
Although it functions running Jriver MC29, l've noticed it dosent have any drivers for it, l am hoping that Dabian 12 will resolve this, in nutshell, l think the N5150 chipset is to recent for Dabian 11.7, l will report back
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Post by Tim on Jun 23, 2023 19:35:17 GMT
You may or may not know but Debian 11 and all previous versions of Debian were released without non-proprietary drivers included in the install, but you can install them after the fact, video drivers are most commonly the ones you need to install yourself, but they are available. I had to do this but if you're not comfortable finding and installing drivers it can be a hurdle to overcome for a new Debian install.
However, with the release of Debian 12 on 10th June they made a major change to this policy and non-proprietary drivers are now included like most other popular Linux distros, such as Ubuntu and Mint. So when you install 12 it should have all the drivers included you are likely to need, unless your hardware is outside the norm.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jun 23, 2023 20:20:09 GMT
Thanks Tim,lt's my weekend job, nice to have you back,where have been?
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jun 25, 2023 10:59:35 GMT
So I have now Dabian 12 installed on my NUC 5150. Really pleased to report you on the money again Tim.
My little issues have gone, l can now use the set up headless,before l was having to use a HDMI dummy plug.
Should l wish,graphics are now displayed correctly,making editing tags easier.
Also l can report that 12 seems to operate faster than 11.7. No issues with Jriver MC29.
One minor comment,and l forgot to mention,that my Gigabyte brix N5150 isn't fanless, as advertised,thankfully it's not loud enough to, and doesn't seem to effect the sound quality, so it will keep me busy looking for a future alternative.
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Post by bencat on Jun 30, 2023 9:34:03 GMT
I have a LIV Zen which uses Vortexbox and is based on Fedora 2.5 . I have found it works very well and is really stable . It uses Logitech Media Server and the only issue I have is that it is not easy to update LMS which using a previous distro on a Raspberry Pi (Max2play) was very simple to do . Currently it is using LMS 8.4 but would be nice to have an easy way to update using the nightly versions .
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jul 17, 2023 20:03:22 GMT
Happy to report that Dabian 12 also runs perfectly on my Gigabyte Brix 4500.
l was expecting it to run Jriver MC29 slightly slower,but it seem exactly the same operationally.
One minor twerk, but l can only seem to power down the NUC when a monitor is connected, normally this can take 60 seconds, however being that l run the NUC 99% of the time headless, l fund that pressing the power button, when a monitor isn't connected, won't power the NUC off, so l am forced turn the psu off instead.
Any suggestions?
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Post by Tim on Jul 21, 2023 9:35:54 GMT
That's never happened to me for any music server or endpoint I've run headless, be that Linux, Windows or even a Roon Rock. After selecting what the power button should do in the settings, as in power off, that's it.
Can't think what that might be, other than maybe something in the BIOS as the operating system command to power off is relatively straightforward. Have you waited longer than 60 seconds as the default logout delay for the Debian/GNOME desktop is 60 seconds? I always change that to 0 seconds, so as soon as I hit the power button the system turns off, but you need to edit the Gnome session manager for that.
Point 6 in the below list;
If it's not that, then I have no idea.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jul 21, 2023 20:05:08 GMT
Thanks Tim,l must have missed the option for zero seconds,so l will revisit, l seem to remember it offering a longer delay time. It's seems to be a issue if there's no monitor and keyboard,so l will revisit on the weekend.
Apart from that the set up is sounding the best it ever has.
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Post by Tim on Jul 21, 2023 23:20:36 GMT
It's not an option you can select, you have to edit the SessionManager as per the link information. It's a terminal command line edit. Maybe it's your BRIX? You refer to it as a NUC, but a NUC is a specific mini PC made by Intel, which has an Intel specific BIOS. So what works on a NUC may not be the same on a BRIX and vice versa . . . I've never used a Gigabyte BRIX so there might be something you need to select in the BIOS? I've never known a PC needing a monitor and keyboard for it to shutdown if the power button is configured to trigger a system shutdown, but then again I've never used a BRIX. PCs can be pesky at times, but there's normally a solution . . tricky bit is finding it! Hopefully you'll sort it |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jul 22, 2023 21:01:52 GMT
l didn't realise it was a command line Tim, l will give it a go,when l get a chance and report back
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jul 23, 2023 10:29:42 GMT
So l entered the command into terminal...with keyboard and monitor connected, and it turned of instantly.
However, once l disconnected the both monitor and keyboard, it wouldn't power down.
Something that Dawned on me, was that command line permanent on the OS, or should l have saved it or something?
As l said it's not the end of the world... And your correct the Brix is sold as a PC, so it could just a silly setting in the bios.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Jul 23, 2023 12:35:18 GMT
Small update, it must be linked to the monitor, as I added a dummy HDMI plug,and it powers down straight away. I had this issue years ago with a ASUS board back when I was running a PC set up. The dummy HDMI sloved the issue,and not at the cost of the audio. So looks like a BIOS issue or setting on board.
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