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Post by Tim on Apr 26, 2023 16:45:15 GMT
Intro to streaming which is where I am going eventually I'd give that a good go first before even thinking about doing anything else Mike . . it might end up in the cupboard with your Raspberry Pi if you decide it's not for you  |
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Post by MartinT on Apr 26, 2023 16:50:25 GMT
Need to see that ease of use compared to CD Use might be all I need Mike, I walk into the music room, turn on the P10/Amp via remote while I'm sitting down. Put the tablet on my lap, turn it on, Bubble is already running. Select any album from a playlist, search and play. I usually have music running within 10s while I'm still making myself comfortable in the chair. There is no way that selecting a physical CD and putting it in the player is anywhere near as convenient! |
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Post by Tim on Apr 26, 2023 17:18:04 GMT
There is no way that selecting a physical CD and putting it in the player is anywhere near as convenient! Definitely - that was the entire reason I took up file based audio all those years ago, it was just too cumbersome finding a CD to play from the racks and racks on the wall, especially with older eyes. Then if you have a session, you have to put the darned things back in the right place when you're finished. File based audio/streaming might be many things, but inconvenient it most definitely isn't . . . once it's set up that is, you do have to get past that bit, but if you never achieve that, then it'll never be convenient. A Bluesound and a streaming service is the most convenient thing I can think of, if it turns on and you have an internet connection it really can't get much simpler  |
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Post by speedysteve on Apr 26, 2023 17:36:30 GMT
Mike this too could be you!  This is how easy it is for Martin! Qobuz-E (that's him it on the right) does all the heavy lifting🙂  |
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Post by Tobias on Apr 26, 2023 17:38:06 GMT
Except for the new challenge presented to you...the ocean of choises I must admit that I initially spent way too much time trying to decide what to listen to, when everything suddenly was at my fingertips. Now a day´s I don´t actually have that problem any longer. I have my places on the internet, that gives me inspiration, when needed (this forum being my latest one). And I guess you have a similar challenge, if not as big though, if you have many local files or records. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 26, 2023 18:10:56 GMT
Need to see that ease of use compared to CD Use might be all I need Mike, I walk into the music room, turn on the P10/Amp via remote while I'm sitting down. Put the tablet on my lap, turn it on, Bubble is already running. Select any album from a playlist, search and play. I usually have music running within 10s while I'm still making myself comfortable in the chair. There is no way that selecting a physical CD and putting it in the player is anywhere near as convenient! This is why the CD playlist plays such a big part. Right next to the player Now, selecting an album to hear, right now, streaming wins and that's via Google |
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 26, 2023 18:11:34 GMT
Intro to streaming which is where I am going eventually I'd give that a good go first before even thinking about doing anything else Mike . . it might end up in the cupboard with your Raspberry Pi if you decide it's not for you Stopped buying CDs Nowhere else to go for new to me music |
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 26, 2023 18:13:48 GMT
Except for the new challenge presented to you...the ocean of choises I must admit that I initially spent way too much time trying to decide what to listen to, when everything suddenly was at my fingertips. Now a day´s I don´t actually have that problem any longer. I have my places on the internet, that gives me inspiration, when needed (this forum being my latest one). And I guess you have a similar challenge, if not as big though, if you have many local files or records. That was another discovery I had previously been on a quest to find CDs I liked. There are too many albums Streaming gives me about 97% of all there is |
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Post by MartinT on Apr 26, 2023 19:47:10 GMT
Now a day´s I don´t actually have that problem any longer. I have my places on the internet, that gives me inspiration, when needed (this forum being my latest one). Me too, I've picked up a tremendous amount of music from other members, TV dramas, forums, Facebook etc. I quickly add them into my Queued for Listening Qobuz playlist on the phone, or Shazam them, then play them in the evening. I also find myself preparing a list of things I want to play in my head even as I'm going to the music room, and once I've played one album or song the rest follow easily as one leads naturally to the next. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 26, 2023 20:21:34 GMT
Spotty and YouTube play me music I like when on Autoplay, think I mentioned it above. Some of it is wonderful
It is often either very expensive in physical format or not available
I may never buy another CD
The answer is streaming
Rule no.1 for me
Play music I love, want to listen to or educate myself with
The format will transfer naturally to streaming, possibly files, maybe both
I will have to learn how to deal with that.
Slow process that I'm happy with
Another element
This is new technology, certainly to me and probably to most here
Evolution is constant and never ending
Tweaks come out of thin air and work and become essential
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Post by speedysteve on Apr 26, 2023 22:23:14 GMT
Yes, as soon as virtually all music available, was in good enough quality, was accessable, cheap and legal, it was a game changer.
I'd had Spotify on my phone pretty much since the beginning (when you had to be invited by someone already on it), so I saw the potential.
Worked in the phone industry so essential for testing.
Early trials of phone / bluetooth to phono output converters did not complete with CD / vinyl SQ.
FFW to recently, the SQ is very good.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 27, 2023 15:01:04 GMT
When I first tried Spotty it was hopeless for music I liked Just not available Way more now and streaming has become main 'stream' |
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Post by MikeMusic on May 2, 2023 14:51:03 GMT
Quick comparison between tracks on CD and Bluesound
CD wonderful
Bluesound something missing, just not nice
Mark King - One man the music for comparison
I think the Bluesound needs to make way for a much better streamer
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Post by John on May 2, 2023 14:58:31 GMT
Is this via streaming or Bluetooth
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Post by MikeMusic on May 2, 2023 15:11:21 GMT
Streaming
TAD D-1000 CD player v's Bluesound not a fair competition
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Post by John on May 2, 2023 15:44:39 GMT
Your TAD a good cd player
It would require a good bit off investment to get that level
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Post by MartinT on May 2, 2023 16:04:51 GMT
I think the Bluesound needs to make way for a much better streamer I agree that it's not a good enough baseline for you make meaningful progress, even with lots of upgrades. |
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Post by Tim on May 2, 2023 17:37:34 GMT
Quick comparison between tracks on CD and Bluesound CD wonderful Bluesound something missing, just not nice Mark King - One man the music for comparison I think the Bluesound needs to make way for a much better streamer What exactly are you comparing though Mike? If it's a Spotify stream against a TAD D-1000 CD player then no, it's not going to sound as good. Unless you go all in, streaming can't match a very good CD player or a ripped FLAC file from a music server and good DAC. You have to go a lot further down Martin's road to make that a fair fight. So that's a completely unrealistic comparison - I'm assuming you weren't really expecting a 500 quid entry level streamer to match your CDP? And I'm also assuming your comparing Spotify, or have you gone up to a lossless service? |
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Post by MikeMusic on May 2, 2023 17:51:17 GMT
Quick comparison between tracks on CD and Bluesound CD wonderful Bluesound something missing, just not nice Mark King - One man the music for comparison I think the Bluesound needs to make way for a much better streamer What exactly are you comparing though Mike? If it's a Spotify stream against a TAD D-1000 CD player then no, it's not going to sound as good. Unless you go all in, streaming can't match a very good CD player or a ripped FLAC file from a music server and good DAC. You have to go a lot further down Martin's road to make that a fair fight. So that's a completely unrealistic comparison - I'm assuming you weren't really expecting a 500 quid entry level streamer to match your CDP? And I'm also assuming your comparing Spotify, or have you gone up to a lossless service? Was hoping it would be much closer Without direct comparison the Bluesound is great |
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Post by Tim on May 2, 2023 17:54:49 GMT
Lossless would be closer, but still not in the same ballpark.
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