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Post by Tim on Sept 18, 2023 12:59:16 GMT
That does look rather nice! Yeah, I really like the design, quite understated for a PC case . . . it can be my Linux/MAC 
Writing the post has prompted me to make my mind up and I've just ordered a silver one.
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Post by Tim on Sept 19, 2023 6:57:34 GMT
As an aside Slinger , is your new build completed and if so, what parts did you end up with?
Be as geeky as you like as I'm more interested in what you've put together in your PC than what new Hi-Fi gizmo you might be trying out |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 19, 2023 7:36:47 GMT
Geek alert build (for Tim): Minisforum UM790 Pro AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS barebones PC arriving soon.  32GB Kingston Fury DDR5 SODIMM 5600MT/s RAM.  My existing Samsung 980 Pro M.2 NVMe PCIE 4 1TB SSD.  My existing AOC Q2770PQU 27" monitor.  |
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Post by Slinger on Sept 19, 2023 11:55:24 GMT
As an aside Slinger , is your new build completed and if so, what parts did you end up with?
Be as geeky as you like as I'm more interested in what you've put together in your PC than what new Hi-Fi gizmo you might be trying out Still not finished, Tim. There are various reasons, mostly down to my health. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 20, 2023 7:18:01 GMT
Still not finished, Tim. There are various reasons, mostly down to my health. Sorry to hear that Paul, but you can't rush some things! |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 27, 2023 9:36:08 GMT
Yay, my new Minisforum UM790 Pro PC has arrived!
I'll be assembling that later.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 27, 2023 19:21:27 GMT
Well, that was easy. This is one of the good things about Windows 11. I took my Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD out of the old machine and inserted it, and the new 32GB Kingston Fury DDR5 RAM into the new beast. Fired up the new machine and it configured its BIOS and RAM and then booted Windows straight into device driver updates, followed by Windows 11 ready to login in lo-res mode. I then installed all the drivers downloadable from the Minisforum site, starting with the chipset drivers. Sorted out the screen resolution and AMD control panel software. Finally, W11 needed activation due to the hardware change so I reactivated it with a new key that <cough> I have access to a great many of. All done inside an hour, half of which was used up in the fiddly RAM insertion with the bottom plate (which contains the fan) giving me just enough access. New Minisforum UM790 Pro (left), older Minisforum X400 (right). The UM790 Pro is smaller, quieter and much more powerful! Cor blimey, it's fast! The old Ryzen 5 6-core was no slouch but this Ryzen 9 8-core goes like the clappers. It benchmarks at twice the performance (multi-core) and 50% more single-core. Interestingly, the exact same 980 Pro SSD, now running in PCIe 4.0 mode, clocks in at double the read speed and 50% more write speed. PhotoShop Elements opens in about 2s. The UM790 Pro also runs quieter, the fan being whisper quiet without the cycling fan speed of the old machine. So that's me sorted, I have more than enough power to do anything I normally get up to with both working from home and leisure stuff. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 28, 2023 9:28:23 GMT
Well, that was easy. This is one of the good things about Windows 11. Moving Linux installation's hasn't been a problem like Windows, just pop the hard drive out and into the new machine, assuming the source and target processors are the same architecture. Hardware drivers are just kernel modules and the kernel loads them as needed at boot-up - nice to know that Windows has finally caught up with Linux though 
Cool little machine though Martin, getting smaller, quieter and faster is always a good thing . . . enjoy.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2023 12:09:22 GMT
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Post by Tim on Sept 29, 2023 12:27:47 GMT
Really, well you need to do some more research as that's a bit dated now - and incorrect |
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Post by Slinger on Sept 29, 2023 13:03:19 GMT
Really, well you need to do some more research as that's a bit dated now - and incorrect Probably put together by a Windows user, in Paint.  |
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Post by Tim on Sept 29, 2023 13:09:28 GMT
A common mistake for people to make who don't actually use or understand how Linux works, especially a modern distribution . . . but each to their own.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2023 13:20:57 GMT
LOL - it made me laugh. Lighten up!
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Post by seanm on Sept 30, 2023 15:57:04 GMT
I am a big fan of small form factor machines like this.... I have had Intel NUCs in the past before many others were available and just before Christmas I bought a secondhand ASUS PN50 (AMD Ryzen 7 4700U, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD) for under £300 and swapped a few bits around. Your new machine looks a really great spec'
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Post by Slinger on Sept 30, 2023 17:01:12 GMT
3D modelling, loads of Photoshop and games too. I've got graphics cards bigger than those PCs |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 30, 2023 17:46:54 GMT
Try MotionMark on a full screen browser session. The UM790 Pro scored as follows on the v1.2 benchmark (the fan speed didn't even increase during the test): 1802 (Edge) 2129 (Chrome) browserbench.org/MotionMark1.2/ |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 30, 2023 18:12:06 GMT
SSD performance (Samsung 980 Pro 1TB).  |
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Post by seanm on Oct 1, 2023 7:57:38 GMT
Your benchmarks are interesting.... I get about 1/4 of your motionMark and about 40% of your SSD score.... the context here is interesting... I consider this secondhand box of tricks "to be no slouch" in terms of performance despite it being a deliberate bargain basement approach.
I was reflecting on Friday that the last few school provided el-cheapo close to bottom of the range laptops (often Lenovo) are now actually perfectly reasonable in terms of performance, quality, look and feel. Of course there are dumb schools out there which insist on shaving the last £20 off of the price making the machine unusable in terms of RAM and SSD sizes.
not so long ago, booting and start-up times used to be real drag... make a cup of tea time, then literally overnight there was a triple whammy:
1. Windows became a lot more stable removing the need to reboot quite so often
2. SSDs and faster NVME "drives" became mainstream
3. The windows startup code was streamlined
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2023 8:06:30 GMT
1. Windows became a lot more stable removing the need to reboot quite so often 2. SSDs and faster NVME "drives" became mainstream 3. The windows startup code was streamlined Agreed, as well as Windows 11 being noticeably faster than Windows 10 on the same (modern) hardware. |
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Post by MartinT on Oct 1, 2023 18:00:32 GMT
Anyone else care to offer their benchmarks? I'd like to know where the above ranks.
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