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Post by MartinT on Jun 24, 2021 15:15:19 GMT
Why did they have to make it look like 'effin MacOS? Clean - yes. Beautiful - maybe. Productive - probably. But why copy something inferior? There was simply no need - Windows 10 got so much right.  |
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Post by Slinger on Jun 24, 2021 16:45:44 GMT
Windows 10 Takes Its Place as Microsoft's 'Forever OS' Redmond" Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10." Jerry Nixon - Microsoft" With Windows 10, it's time to start thinking of Windows as something that won't see a big launch or major upgrade every few years anymore." Microsoft SpokespersonEven their press releases appear to be buggy beta releases.   |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 25, 2021 7:51:44 GMT
It's interesting that I came in this morning and asked my manager in charge of Macs and iPads (we have well over a thousand iPads deployed in the school) about last night's Windows 11 launch webinar. He agreed immediately that they have made it look like MacOS and that it's a shame. He thinks Windows 10 is just fine as it is. We both would have preferred them to keep their own identities. This comes from an avowed Apple lover.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 25, 2021 13:45:51 GMT
They've pinched that "multiple desktops" trick from Apple. "Home" button moved centre-screen too. I have a horrible feeling it's going to be a glorious fuck-up on release. There's nothing to suggest that Micro$oft have stopped using end-users as beta testers. The biggest news has got to be that it'll run Android apps natively. Best quote so far: "Principal analyst JP Gownder noted that the new operating system was based on the code of Windows 10, which should prevent upgrade glitches such as those seen in the past with Windows Vista". That one kept me chuckling for hours.  |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 25, 2021 14:43:10 GMT
Agreed - running Android apps looks good, but they're using the Amazon Store, not the Google Play Store. Too much overlap with Chromebooks?
The thing is, Windows 10 is a beautiful thing and very stable. To achieve this on thousands of different pieces of hardware is a very different level of attainment than Apple with their controlled and limited hardware.
Why change it now? Unless it's just a new frock, in which case please give me back my preferred UI?
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Post by Slinger on Jun 25, 2021 16:23:51 GMT
I wonder if it's worth actually building this new computer of mine and going straight in with a clean Windows 11 OS from the get go. Nah. Just kidding. |
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2021 14:34:20 GMT
The next major change appears to be the onward march of Teams, which will be an integrated component of W11, and the downward spiral of Skype which, for the first time, will no longer be a pre-installed app, and which has now been relegated to a MS STore download. Don't just take my word for it though. Also getting the boot it would appear are Cortana, which will no longer be pinned to the taskbar; Internet Explorer is disabled by default in favour of the more modern Edge browser; and tools such as OneNote, Paint 3D, and Windows' 3D viewer app are getting the Skype treatment and becoming optional store downloads. All I can say is I'd better still be able to get my hands on "Paint," which I use a heck of a lot for quick re-sizing of images on the fly, and Photo Viewer which I use as my double-click default image viewer, as it's lightening fast. |
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Post by John on Jun 27, 2021 14:41:07 GMT
Yes Paint is useful I understand why they are promoting Teams over Skype
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Post by MartinT on Jun 27, 2021 15:04:16 GMT
Teams is better than Skype in every way, so the latter is no loss. It makes no sense to continue development of both.
OneNote for Windows 10 is a better app than OneNote Office 365. There is strange parallel development of these two apps, but I sense the former will win out as it has better handling of tabs and pages. Perhaps it'll become OneNote for Windows 11? IE is already obsolete - goodness knows why anyone would continue using it.
I use Photoshop Express for quick photo work but I agree that Photo Viewer is an excellent default app for opening photos fast.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 27, 2021 15:07:38 GMT
The basic hardware requirements for Windows 11 are going to stop a lot of people from upgrading.
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC)
RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB)
Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device
System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable
TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0
Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver
Display: High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per colour channel
It's that reference to TPM that'll knock a lot of older and domestic hardware out of upgrading.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2021 15:11:39 GMT
The basic hardware requirements for Windows 11 are going to stop a lot of people from upgrading. Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC) RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB) Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0 Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver Display: High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per colour channel It's that reference to TPM that'll knock a lot of older and domestic hardware out of upgrading. Good luck upgrading to a suitable graphics card too if that's required. |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 27, 2021 15:17:53 GMT
My Gigabyte NUC with Intel Core i7 6500U can't run Windows 11, according to the PC Health Check from Microsoft. It doesn't have TPM.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2021 15:31:43 GMT
My Gigabyte NUC with Intel Core i7 6500U can't run Windows 11, according to the PC Health Check from Microsoft. It doesn't have TPM. I've just switched mine on in BIOS. It's V 2.0 Have a poke about in BIOS and check that it's not just turned off Martin. This might help, although it's not how I found it. That was literally going through all of the settings until I came across something vaguely resembling "TPM" I think it was inside some sort of security setting. www.wepc.com/how-to/enable-tpm-for-windows-11/ |
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Post by John on Jun 27, 2021 16:23:53 GMT
W10 is being supported to Oct 2024 after that is anyone guess
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 27, 2021 17:14:11 GMT
My Gigabyte NUC with Intel Core i7 6500U can't run Windows 11, according to the PC Health Check from Microsoft. It doesn't have TPM. I've just switched mine on in BIOS. It's V 2.0 Have a poke about in BIOS and check that it's not just turned off Martin. This might help, although it's not how I found it. That was literally going through all of the settings until I came across something vaguely resembling "TPM" I think it was inside some sort of security setting. www.wepc.com/how-to/enable-tpm-for-windows-11/ Just done the same for my son's PC - TPM was disabled in BIOS. Had to do a search for it within BIOS as couldn't find the setting but now sorted and eligible for the free upgrade. |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 27, 2021 17:22:59 GMT
No, it's not in my UEFI. No TPM, so at some point I'll have to upgrade to the only model in the current Gigabyte BRIX range that sports a TPM module.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2021 17:31:57 GMT
No, it's not in my UEFI. No TPM, so at some point I'll have to upgrade to the only model in the current Gigabyte BRIX range that sports a TPM module. Serious question, instead of having a model " forced" on you, why not just spec and build your own? |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 27, 2021 17:37:51 GMT
No, I actually like these ultra-tiny PCs, I don't want anything as large as a mini-tower ever again. My Gigabyte BRIX has been superb since I bought it in Jan 2016. If I have to replace it soon, it will have done its service life faultlessly.
I can just move the excellent Samsung SSD 950 Pro M.2 over to the new machine and carry on as before.
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Post by pre65 on Jun 27, 2021 21:24:52 GMT
I ran the PC health check app to see if my laptop was eligible for W11, and it failed on the "secure boot" facility.
I can enable secure boot in the BIOS, but seemingly I also need to make it UEFI only, and disable CSM support.
Are these settings in the BIOS as well ?
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2021 21:51:35 GMT
Apparently, W11 won't support the i7-7700 3.6oGhz processor on this machine. The AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT I bought for the new machine is, however, supported. If I want W11 I've got to build the new PC it seems.
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