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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2021 21:57:42 GMT
I ran the PC health check app to see if my laptop was eligible for W11, and it failed on the "secure boot" facility. I can enable secure boot in the BIOS, but seemingly I also need to make it UEFI only, and disable CSM support. Are these settings in the BIOS as well ? You'll find the UEFI and CSM settings both in BIOS. |
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Post by pre65 on Jun 27, 2021 23:05:38 GMT
Ah yes, I've been in the BIOS and,
1) Set it for UEFI only.
2) Turned off CSM support.
3) Enabled secure boot.
Aren't I clever ?
Except after that it would not boot up beyond the "Windows boot monitor" page.
So, I reset it back to how things were, and everything works again.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 28, 2021 5:32:24 GMT
Beware - if you already have Windows running, don't change from BIOS to UEFI without following the registry change you must make, or it'll crash.
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Post by pre65 on Jun 28, 2021 8:54:14 GMT
I've also checked TPM, and my laptop is on version 1.2 Will Windows update that to version 2 through auto update eventually ?
I'll wait to see what happens as W11 is rolled out, W10 will do me for quite a while yet.
PS
Lenovo Vantage had updated and reflashed my boot settings but TPM is still 1.2
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Post by MartinT on Jun 28, 2021 11:58:14 GMT
TPM is hardware on the motherboard so I don't think it can be updated.
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Post by pre65 on Jun 28, 2021 16:22:09 GMT
TPM is hardware on the motherboard Not necessarily, or so I have read. |
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Post by Slinger on Jun 28, 2021 17:08:36 GMT
TPM *can* be firmware or even software emulation, but generally, they're hardware. There's a decent article explaing a bit more about TPM modules, and why upgrading/installing might be a problem here... www.shacknews.com/article/125332/pc-owners-scramble-for-add-in-tpm-20-modules-in-prep-for-windows-11I've just checked the new motherboard I bought for my new PC build and it has a TPM header, but no module. I've just paid £24.99 for one on Amazon. You should see the prices on eBay.  I was very lucky to find a compatible module at the " proper" price, although I still object to paying out even more money on the PC just so it will run W11. I could have waited but with the current world-wide chip shortage I really didn't want to take the chance of TPM modules going the way of graphics cards and becoming either impossible to find or impossible to afford. |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 28, 2021 18:58:42 GMT
Good find, Paul.
At work, it's no issue - all our recent equipment has TPM on board as I will only buy Lenovo kit, ThinkPads for the laptops and ThinkCentre all-in-ones for desktops.
I'll keep monitoring the Gigabyte BRIX range for a suitable 'donor' to move to. Needn't be for a while yet.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 28, 2021 19:34:52 GMT
From what I've read, most corporate machines come with the TPM module ready fitted, as do the majority of laptops released since 2016, although there's no guarantee the version number will be correct.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 29, 2021 14:58:38 GMT
Yes, it was, they're "out of stock" now. |
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Post by pre65 on Jun 30, 2021 8:43:54 GMT
I understand that Microsoft have (temporarily ?) withdrawn the checker tool because of massive negative feedback.
The whole W11 thing has become a joke.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 30, 2021 9:37:19 GMT
It looks like Microsoft may have gone off half-cocked. As I said earlier, even their press releases are buggy beta versions.  |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 30, 2021 10:38:35 GMT
They could have foreseen this.
Just gentle announcements that a future OS will be for 'high end' computers only, then reinforcing the message over and over, would have set the mindset accordingly and stop people thinking they could just move on over to W11 when released.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 30, 2021 10:44:19 GMT
They could have foreseen this. Just gentle announcements that a future OS will be for 'high end' computers only, then reinforcing the message over and over, would have set the mindset accordingly and stop people thinking they could just move on over to W11 when released. Or they could have just said nothing until they were actually ready with some *facts* rather than some broad strokes tied up with a faulty forensic app. The Micro$oft juggernaut trundles on though, with very little thouhgt for non-corporate end users. |
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Post by Slinger on Jun 30, 2021 11:11:06 GMT
I couldn't resist  |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 1, 2021 11:55:11 GMT
Try this utility. Results are from my Surface Pro 7.  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 4, 2021 19:30:07 GMT
I'm on the lookout for a mini PC for Windows 11 to replace my Gigabyte BRIX that has no TPM.
Currently the Minisforum UM700 is looking very promising. AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, Radeon RX Vega 10 graphics, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVMe M.2 SSD, triple 4K displays, WiFi 6, BT 5.1, USB 3.1 & USB-C, all in a tiny package for less than £500.
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Post by petea on Aug 5, 2021 6:34:44 GMT
Looks good, and an intersting selection of mounting options too.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 2, 2021 11:09:14 GMT
I'm not sure if anyone here has come across windowsfx, but it appears to be a remarkable project to write a full Windows emulator (including Windows 11) in Linux. I'm installing it on an old Dell Venue 11 Pro tablet I have kicking around. It has an old Intel Core m CPU so could never run real Windows 11. It looks good so far, coming up with the Windows 11 GUI and is now running Edge browser. Impressive bit of emulation. www.windowsfx.org/ |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 2, 2021 14:34:28 GMT
That could be big
Do they emulate W10 and if so how is it ?
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