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Post by Tim on Aug 2, 2023 10:09:31 GMT
Apart from my NUC, which I only bought as Roon had it on their supported hardware list for Roon ROCK, I've not bought an Intel CPU since 2005 when I bought an Athlon 64. That Rufus install of Windows 11 also makes the install really fast . . . 7m 58s to be precise on my hardware for W11 Pro  |
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Post by Tim on Aug 13, 2023 14:08:43 GMT
Just in case anyone was thinking I'd jumped back on the Windoze bandwagon, the only thing I've done with Windows 11 is install it and take a look around before deciding not to use it. I was running comparison install time tests against different Linux distributions, which seemed really fast compared to a Windows install. Nerdy I know, but I like to know useless nonsense like that
W11 was the turning point for me in deciding to adopt Linux full time.
This is quite a good presentation of where I feel Microsoft's development of Windows is at odds with people like myself, as I'm a self builder and always have been. Apart from laptops, which I'm not that keen on, I've always built my own desktop personal computers, so the points Chris raise here echo my own views. Can't really see me ever using Windows again for my main PC, but never say never . . .
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2023 14:20:24 GMT
I'm a self-builder, too. It has never been about pricing, in fact it's hard to match the price of pre-built PCs, it's rather about speccing your own machine and the satisfaction of making it yours.
I don't see how this pertains to Windows any more or less than other OS. The only real lock-in out there is Apple. There are ways to continue upgrading Windows so that you never pay for it.
I'll be sticking with Windows as the most flexible and compatible OS out there, with the full 365 suite running on it. I need my computer to just work at all times, be fast, secure and reliable. It's all those things for me.
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Post by Tim on Aug 13, 2023 14:25:17 GMT
I knew you'd say all that - could have bet my no claims bonus discount on it
"Fast, secure and reliable . . . "
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2023 14:31:40 GMT
Yep, exactly as I said.
I do work with a large fleet of computers both Windows and Macs, and it's my considered opinion after years of working with everything from Pi upwards. You have a right to your opinion and have expressed it.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 13, 2023 14:56:41 GMT
Excellent point about the price of licensing. I actually paid forty-six quid for:
Instead of paying between £130.00 and £150.00.
As Martin says, building my own PC is not reliant on being able to access a cheaper OS, otherwise I'd be running a Linux distro, but why shouldn't I get a price-break from Micro$haft? It's not as if I even need to purchase hardware. I can download the full, unadulterated, version of Windows of my choice, and after that it's merely a question of properly licensing it, which could be handled by a simple email. I am, in effect, an "OEM", so why should I pay £150.00?
He uses the phrase, "total disdain for users" and I can't help but agree. I'm sure corporate users get treated far better than "we" do, because they bring in the big bucks. For the rest of us it's "here's your OS, get on with it. Don't like how bits of it work? Tough." I've ended up resorting to third-party software in the past to do several things that I should have been able to accomplish via a decent UI, which could be a part of the "Builder's Edition" speculated upon in the video.
There are a lot of things to like about Windoze, but there is also, for - dare I say it - an above-average user, plenty to dislike and get irate about. My problem is, like many "power users" I've got plenty of software that is only available for Windoze or Apple machines, so I'm locked in, and they know it.
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Post by Tim on Aug 13, 2023 15:06:56 GMT
I think that's my biggest bone of contention Paul, that perceived disdain - 'like it or lump it as we can do what we like with a monopoly'. I'd just like to be able to be in control of my gear, or at least have a choice and not have that choice reversed every time there's a forced update.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2023 16:33:14 GMT
it's " here's your OS, get on with it. Don't like how bits of it work? Tough." I've . You could say that about any OS. MS have customer clinics but they appear to be made up of dorks who want everything tricky to be hidden away by over nannying. I completely understand why some want to be on the bleeding edge of OS development, I used to, and would install Insider beta versions and then get frustrated with the bugs. I no longer do that, I want stability. One of my staff asked me last week if he could install Linux on his work machine and I refused. Once I explained to him that it was critical he had the same OS as the people he is supporting, he got it. I do like Linux, it can be fun to play with. However, it is nowhere near the level of maturity needed for work and some big profile cases (e.g. Munich city council) have amplified that by going back to Microsoft after going with Linux for a few years. |
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Post by Slinger on Aug 18, 2023 15:19:15 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Aug 18, 2023 15:34:01 GMT
1. yes, that's a good move by Microsoft. For instance, who needs the camera app on a desktop?
2. very useful feature, we're often taking snapshops of Task Manager when fault finding. By the way, you can sort by the Name or CPU columns as required, very useful.
3. I didn't know that, but we have gravitated towards Samsung for some time as making the fastest and most reliable SSDs.
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Post by Tim on Aug 20, 2023 11:13:41 GMT
Not tried it myself but you can reduce a lot of that start menu clutter during the install when you select your language and region, by selecting English (World)
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Post by MartinT on Aug 20, 2023 11:43:01 GMT
I have everything I need regularly on the Taskbar and use the search for things. Virtually never use the Start menu.
Thio Joe is good!
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2023 16:44:15 GMT
If you're confident with Windows 10/11, these are excellent ways of hardening your machine from Powershell-based attacks.
I have applied them all, retaining the ability to run signed Powershell scripts.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 18, 2023 0:40:18 GMT
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 18, 2023 8:54:13 GMT
That is small
All that power
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Post by MartinT on Sept 18, 2023 10:08:14 GMT
It's tiny...  |
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Post by Slinger on Sept 18, 2023 12:35:43 GMT
What will you use it for?
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Post by Tim on Sept 18, 2023 12:40:30 GMT
Those Minisforums jobbies are great Martin, I like them a lot, better value than a NUC, BRIX or ASUS PN series. If Akasa made a fanless case for them as well, they'd probably sell even more. Amazing what they pack into a small box now, that little thing will fly 
Funnily enough I'm in the process of changing my PC again! I've binned the idea of a Linux machine and a Windows machine, I'm 100% Linux now. So a new motherboard, RAM, cooler and case and possibly a bigger monitor. Not as small as that Minisforum PC but I'm going from 10.4 L to 8.2 L - the Fractal Terra didn't make the cut as it has an annoying (for me) trait, in that those grills on the sides induce a noticeable turbulence noise from the CPU fan. Without the sides the fan is silent, but closed and there is a (admittedly barely perceptible) low whoosh sound. That's not going to play for OCD Tim, oh no matey, so it's out the door!
I'm considering a Louqe Ghost S1 - it's only 2.2 L smaller than the Terra, but I really like the minimalist design. Louqe are a Swedish company and the panels are CNC machined from a billet of aluminum rather than pressed. You can also fit a dual slot 300mm graphics card in there if you want!
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Post by MartinT on Sept 18, 2023 12:51:48 GMT
I'm considering a Louqe Ghost S1 - it's only 2.2 L smaller than the Terra, but I really like the minimalist design. Louqe are a Swedish company and the panels are CNC machined from a billet of aluminum rather than pressed. You can also fit a dual slot 300mm graphics card in there if you want! That does look rather nice! |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 18, 2023 12:52:42 GMT
What will you use it for? Everything I do at home from daily stuff to forum work to watching drama to working from home, Teams calls etc. |
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