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Post by Slinger on Dec 4, 2020 18:10:01 GMT
At least I can get into safe mode now. The trouble is, it's given me itchy computer-building fingers. I'm tempted to put a(nother) high-end machine together in the new year, but I reckon I'm looking at between £1.5k and £2k using "name" components, which is currently putting me off.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 5, 2020 0:50:28 GMT
Unfortunately, it won't take the new NVIDIA graphics card I want, that handles ray-tracing natively, or my 2 x 2TB and 1x4TB drives which I'll probably recycle, or the i7 9770 (or maybe a 10070, depending on what sort of deal I can get) unlocked processor I'm looking at. etc. etc.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 5, 2020 11:58:02 GMT
LOL!
Only an i7-6500U in mine but it goes as well as the i7-1065G7 in my Surface Pro 7.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 5, 2020 12:26:47 GMT
I was tempted to go with the newer i9, but the step up in performance, especially from an unlocked (and overclocked) i7, is not worth the price premium. Having said all that, something like this looks quite tempting as a basic "building block" and should be about on a par with the i9 for slightly less than I specced the same parts based around the i7. smile.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-CPU-Motherboard-Bundle-2400Mhz/dp/B081VR6XNK/At the moment it's all moot anyway as the bloody crypto-currency miners have decimated supplies of higher-end graphics cards, like the RTX 2060. What with them and Covid, virtually every decent graphics card on Amazon is showing as "out of stock." Plus, of course, the short supply has driven up the price on what cards are actually available. Right, moan over, time to make lunch.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 9, 2020 15:49:30 GMT
As is normal for me, I've performed a complete volte-face and I am now seriously looking at an AMD Ryzen 9 3900 processor, in an MSI mobo, with a Corsair Carbide case, 64GB of 3200Ghz Corsair memory and Corsair 80i liquid cooling, plus extra case fans, thermal grease, blah-blah-blah. At today's prices, and if the RTX 2060 Super SC Ultra Gaming graphics card was actually available, I could pull it all together from Amazon for £1444.92 I can see that if graphics cards do become available some time in the new year I'll need to have a serious talk with myself.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 9, 2020 16:05:12 GMT
Nothing wrong with AMD processors, their early 64-bit CPUs left Intel behind when they first came out. They've been through a rough patch more recently, but then so have Intel with their vulnerabilities.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 9, 2020 17:32:05 GMT
The machine I've got now has the first Intel processor I've ever bought. I started with what must have been an AMD 386 DX-40 and saw no serious reason to change, mostly because for a long time AMD outstripped Intel in the "bang-for-bucks" stakes. When I built this machine, around 3 years ago, the tables had turned. The main reason for going back to AMD is that the Intel equivalent has a tiny 16MB of L3 cache, whereas the AMD has 64MB. The Intel comes out a bit faster on single-core tests, but the AMD hammers it on multi-core operations. The AMD works with faster memory too.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 28, 2020 0:47:33 GMT
I'm convinced that there's some sort of campaign against me. I've mentioned that I'm going to be building a new PC in the new year, and that it's not worth starting now because I can't lay my hands on a decent graphics card for less dosh than what can only be described as a cruel joke on behalf of the manufacturer. What I have done is what I always do when starting a new project, and that's my "due diligence." I've been sifting through reviews and info about the various components I'm going to need, and creating a final list, which I've costed. And so it begins. The case I chose is as close to perfection as I could find. It ticked all the boxes and no other case even came close. Today I see that it's suddenly become " unavailable," and upon further investigation the manufacturer (Corsair) are out of stock too, because they've discontinued it. Over-bloody-night. I had a good search around and I managed to locate one in Osnabrück, Germany, so I bought it straight away. As I'd bought the case I thought I might as well buy the extra case fans I'm going to be using, and the fan hub along with them. I can fit them and save myself a job when I do the actual build. Here's where I started taking things personally. The power supply I'd chosen has just become " Temporarily out of stock," again, overnight. The manufacturer is similarly out of stock. It's Corsair again, so they've discontinued it. I found a more expensive alternative... and bought it before it vanished in a puff of smoke or something. Although it's not a Corsair. Next, the motherboard I'd selected... out of stock... overnight. I had a look round and something actually went right for once. I found an " open box" offer at Box.co.uk and ended up saving twenty-odd quid on the mobo. The CPU I'm going to be using has gone up by around seventy quid since I put it in my wish list at Amazon, not just there either, but at most stores I checked. Curry's though, of all places, has a special offer on them at £400.00 with free delivery. I've ordered that too. While I was at it I thought I'd better check some of the other things I've earmarked for the new machine. I got a bargain on the liquid cooling. I saved myself twenty quid on that by finding yet another "open box" deal. I thought I might as well order the thermal grease and the 1 Tb SSD while I was at it. That leaves the memory, a keyboard, and the OS, and a GPU at some stage. So much for not starting yet.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 28, 2020 4:50:17 GMT
At least you can start assembling it when the parts arrive.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 28, 2020 12:28:16 GMT
At least you can start assembling it when the parts arrive. That's what I thought, right up until 09:48 this morning. To add insult to injury I lost £0.02p on the currency exchanges. Judging by my searches yesterday I'm now going to end up paying at least £30.00 - £40.00 over list price to get the case I want. The problem is, as I said, the case is absolutely perfect for my needs so I'll pay it, if I can find one. Ironic though, isn't it, that the thing that started my little flurry of activity, and the first thing I actually ordered, is the thing that's let me down. The first batch of bits from Amazon has arrived, while I was typing this. There is another Amazon delivery slated for later today, with my Patriot Burst Series 960GB SSD, thermal grease, and an internal DVD writer. I've just this second received this in my eBay messages... Back to the bloody drawing board. I'd just sourced another one in Germany and they won't send to the UK either. Sometimes I really don't know why I bother to plan things so minutely. I may just as well not bother half of the time.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 28, 2020 13:06:23 GMT
Gosh - you're not having much of a run of luck, are you? This has implications for all of us when ordering from abroad
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Post by MartinT on Dec 28, 2020 13:13:09 GMT
Can you explain the Patriot Burst SSD decision? With Samsung 980 Pro M.2 NVMe being some of the best storage around, I wondered why you chose the former?
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Post by Slinger on Dec 28, 2020 13:23:40 GMT
Can you explain the Patriot Burst SSD decision? With Samsung 980 Pro M.2 NVMe being some of the best storage around, I wondered why you chose the former? Pure economics more than anything. The Samsung retails for a smidge over £210.00. I'd already set a nominal £100.00 top price for the SSD, and the Patriot (after researching it, and finding a lot of favourable reports) was £89.99. Mind you, you can see how well setting price limits is working out for me. I've just found a more expensive alternative to my case. It looks pretty damn good. It's not released over here yet, it's only available in the States.
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Post by petea on Dec 28, 2020 15:39:13 GMT
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Post by petea on Dec 28, 2020 15:42:34 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Dec 28, 2020 15:54:51 GMT
You can use the same Amazon account across all Amazons.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 28, 2020 17:44:00 GMT
I didn't even consider that, Pete. DOH! Dankeschön mate. Ein Case bestellt, und zere vill be ein email tellink me ven it vill be arrivink. It never even called me a "Britischer schweinehund" because of Brexit. Something I found interesting though, it kept trying to get me to sign up to Amazon Prime despite my already being a member, so apparently overseas Amazon stores don't recognise that.
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Post by MikeMusic on Dec 28, 2020 20:52:58 GMT
You just weren't desperate enough Paul
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Post by petea on Dec 28, 2020 22:33:04 GMT
I suspect that the Prime thing is to do with rights to Prime Video etc as they are country specific.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 29, 2020 0:03:32 GMT
As you may have guessed, as soon as I found out I could only source the case in mainland Europe there was a bit of a rush to get one ordered before Jan 1st in case Brexit knocked the price up even further. By the time Pete pointed out German Amazon to me I was looking at cases between £100 - £140, my logic being that if I'm going to end up paying the best part of a hundred quid for a case that should retail for just under fifty, I might as well start looking at cases that actually cost that much.
£56.54 for the case I actually wanted though, is a far better deal, so thanks again, Pete.
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