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Post by pre65 on Aug 6, 2021 10:28:48 GMT
Will Aston Martin succeed in it's protest re the 1Ltr fuel sample ?
As I understand things the matter was not about how much fuel was left in the tank, but the fact that they (AM) could not get access to enough for the full 1Ltr, despite being given more time to do so.
I'm not sure if the FIA have impounded the car to prevent any "trickery".
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Post by MartinT on Aug 6, 2021 11:15:11 GMT
I thought they had sent the car back to wherever the FIA wanted it for further testing? By which time the fuel will have evaporated  |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 10, 2021 8:28:27 GMT
From the FIA about Aston Martin's protest at Vettel DQ:
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Post by pre65 on Aug 10, 2021 12:28:01 GMT
From the FIA about Aston Martin's protest at Vettel DQ:
I see that Perez's seat at Red Bull is now in doubt for 2022, so the driver seat situation remains interesting.
Mercedes will announce (supposedly) next years drivers during the summer break, then everything might be a bit clearer with regards to all the other teams. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 10, 2021 12:46:21 GMT
It goes to show, once again, that Red Bull do not nurture their drivers. They either perform or they're out.
It's one way to run a team.
Predictions:
Russell to Mercedes
Bottas to Alfa
Raikkonen retires
Gasly back up to Red Bull?
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Post by ant on Aug 28, 2021 15:21:37 GMT
George russell. Remarkable
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Post by MartinT on Aug 29, 2021 17:37:51 GMT
What a waste of my Now day pass.
It rained relentlessly at Spa. After the 'race' (behind the safety car) was red flagged, there was an interminable wait until another try much later, with the same outcome. Having completed the necessary minimum two laps, the race was abandoned so half points were allocated according to qualifying position.
Great for Russell, tragic for the steadfast fans who went there.
Result
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull
2 George Russell Williams
3 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
4 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren
5 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin
6 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri
7 Esteban Ocon1 Alpine
8 Charles Leclerc Ferrari
9 Nicholas Latifi Williams
10 Carlos Sainz Ferrari
11 Fernando Alonso Alpine
12 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
13 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing
14 Lando Norris McLaren
15 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri
16 Mick Schumacher Haas
17 Nikita Mazepin Haas
18 Lance Stroll Aston Martin
19 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing
20 Sergio Perez Red Bull
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Post by MartinT on Sept 4, 2021 15:18:08 GMT
Zandvoort is going to be an interesting race tomorrow. The qualy was very close between Verstappen and Hamilton. Great Q3 by Gasly and look at Giovinazzi!
Times
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:08.885
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 0.038s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.337s
4 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 0.593s
5 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0.642s
6 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 0.652s
7 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 0.705s
8 Esteban Ocon Alpine 1.048s
9 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1.071s
10 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1.281s
11 George Russell Williams 1:10.332
12 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1:10.367
13 Lando Norris McLaren 1:10.406
14 Nicholas Latifi Williams 1:11.161
15 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:11.314
16 Sergio Perez Red Bull 1:10.530
17 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1:10.731
18 Robert Kubica Alfa Romeo Racing 1:11.301
19 Mick Schumacher Haas 1:11.387
20 Nikita Mazepin Haas 1:11.875
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Post by ant on Sept 5, 2021 16:19:37 GMT
Well that was a boring race
No overtakes of note, worthless strategy calls that made no difference at all, and a procession. Again.
The much vaunted zandvoort was as boring as monaco
It wasn't even as if Max buggered off into the distance and thrashed everyone. He and Lewis buggered off into the distance as expected. Everyone else squabbled a little bit and practically finished where they started. Russell and Giovanazzi went backwards as expected, Alonso and norris went forward as expected, Perez salvaged some points as expected. Nobody had a sniff of an overtake unless they were a huge amount faster, practically no wheel to wheel racing. Alonso holding up the rest of the field trundling along to keep the tyres in good nick sums up the whole race
I really hope the 2022 cars do as advertised because that was mind numbing
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Post by MartinT on Sept 5, 2021 18:56:20 GMT
It looked very exciting from the cockpit views, but it was indeed a dull race.
Amazing that even Bottas in similar machinery couldn't keep up with those two. Perez, though!
Times
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:13.547
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 20.932s
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 56.460s
4 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1 lap
5 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1 lap
6 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1 lap
7 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 1 lap
8 Sergio Perez Red Bull 1 lap
9 Esteban Ocon Alpine 1 lap
10 Lando Norris McLaren 1 lap
11 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1 lap
12 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 2 laps
13 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 2 laps
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 2 laps
15 Robert Kubica Alfa Romeo Racing 2 laps
16 Nicholas Latifi Williams 2 laps
17 George Russell Williams 2 laps
19 Mick Schumacher Haas 3 laps
Did not finish
Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri engine – lap 51
Nikita Mazepin Haas hydraulic issue – lap 43
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Post by pre65 on Sept 6, 2021 22:03:05 GMT
Predictions: Russell to Mercedes Bottas to Alfa Raikkonen retires Gasly back up to Red Bull? You got 3 out of 4 right, but not Gasly. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 7, 2021 5:16:32 GMT
Yep, poor Gasly still not given a second chance.
Marko seems to want to prove himself right at any cost.
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Post by ant on Sept 7, 2021 6:09:12 GMT
Something went on with gasly while at rb and they now wont touch him with a bargepole. Who knows what, but he appears to have got on the wrong side of the wrong people
Shame, but nobody wants that second red bull seat. The alpha tauri car seems to suit him anyway
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Post by MartinT on Sept 7, 2021 6:47:23 GMT
Maybe Gasly let rip at Marko. I doubt I could hold counsel to the arrogant pr*ck.
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Post by ant on Sept 8, 2021 15:29:44 GMT
Glad to see the 2022 driver lineup is about complete, russell to merc, bottas to alfa, albon to williams with ties to rb all but cut. Only seat still up in the air is the second alfa seat which i hope giovanazzi keeps Also filled in the f1 survey f1-global-fan-survey.motorsport.com/First opportunity to do so for a number of years |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 8, 2021 19:17:55 GMT
Also filled in the f1 survey Done! |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 26, 2021 16:58:26 GMT
Well, that was fun, especially the unpredictable end. Lando got it wrong and Hamilton right with tyre choice as the rain came down. Verstappen drove amazingly to come in 2nd. Little was said about Sainz but once again he out-drove his more established team-mate.
It's still neck and neck and the outcome of this year's championship hangs in the balance.
Result
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull 53.271s
3 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 62.475s
4 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 65.607s
5 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 67.533s
6 Fernando Alonso Alpine 81.321s
7 Lando Norris McLaren 87.224s
8 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 88.955s
9 Sergio Perez Red Bull 90.076s
10 George Russell Williams 100.551s
11 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 106.198s
12 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1 LAP
13 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1 LAP
14 Esteban Ocon Alpine 1 LAP
15 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1 LAP
16 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1 LAP
17 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1 LAP
18 Nikita Mazepin Haas 2 LAPS
Did not finish
Nicholas Latifi Williams lap 49
Mick Schumacher Haas lap 33 – hydraulic leak
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Post by stanleyb on Sept 26, 2021 23:34:41 GMT
You would have to be new to F1 to bet against Lewis winning in the rain.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 9, 2021 22:49:08 GMT
I've only watched the highlights so all I can say is that it seemed to be an interesting qualy experience where the rain caught some drivers out.
These are not the grid positions as Hamilton will take a 10-place grid penalty for a new engine and Sainz will go to the back of the grid for a new complete powertrain.
Times
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:22.868
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.130s
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull 0.328s
4 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0.397s
5 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 0.458s
6 Fernando Alonso Alpine 0.609s
7 Sergio Perez Red Bull 0.838s
8 Lando Norris McLaren 1.086s
9 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1.437s
10 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1.500s
11 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1:24.795
12 Esteban Ocon Alpine 0.047s
13 George Russell Williams 0.212s
14 Mick Schumacher Haas 0.405s
15 Carlos Sainz Ferrari NO TIME SET
16 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1:25.881
17 Nicholas Latifi Williams 0.205s
18 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 0.549s
19 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 0.944s
20 Nikita Mazepin Haas 2.568s
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Post by MartinT on Oct 10, 2021 16:16:00 GMT
Well, that didn't work for Hamilton who was angry at being called to pit again by Mercedes, although he did gain good places to come 5th, he possibly could have done better with a different strategy. Bottas held the lead and Leclerc did remarkably well. Alonso had a bad day. Verstappen is creeping ever more towards the championship.
Result
1 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull 14.584s
3 Sergio Perez Red Bull 33.390s
4 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 37.814s
5 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 41.812s
6 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 44.292s
7 Lando Norris McLaren 47.213s
8 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 51.526s
9 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 82.018s
10 Esteban Ocon Alpine 1 lap
11 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1 lap
12 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1 lap
13 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1 lap
14 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1 lap
15 George Russell Williams 1 lap
16 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1 lap
17 Nicholas Latifi Williams 1 lap
18 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1 lap
19 Mick Schumacher Haas 2 laps
20 Nikita Mazepin Haas 2 laps
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