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Post by MartinT on Jul 18, 2021 18:59:50 GMT
Lewis was quite angry about it in interview afterwards, but took the penalty well, which was good.
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Post by stanleyb on Jul 18, 2021 20:38:58 GMT
Hamilton passed both Norris and Leclerc at the same Copse corner. So I don't know what Horner was winding himself up about Copse in his interviews.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 21, 2021 20:37:16 GMT
James Allison makes a good case for Hamilton not deserving any penalty for the Verstappen crash.
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Post by pre65 on Jul 23, 2021 15:38:41 GMT
I hear rumours that Bottas will go to Alfa Romeo if Mercedes decide to partner Hamilton with George Russell.
I wonder if Russell will be expected to support Lewis in the same way Bottas has been doing ?
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Post by MartinT on Jul 23, 2021 16:50:39 GMT
Perhaps, as he grows his talent. However, Russell will go for it as soon as he feels ready.
I guess Raikkonen will be retiring, then?
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Post by ant on Jul 29, 2021 21:18:25 GMT
I see red bull did not convince the fia to review the 10 second penalty for hamilton from silverstone, and also made some allegations, the details of which have not been revealed. Interesting that the fia has reported this in its statement at all if the allegations were confidential.
This whole saga seems to have gotten nasty
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Post by MartinT on Jul 29, 2021 21:24:09 GMT
Red Bull, Horner and particularly Marko have an unpleasant and whiny characteristic that turns me off anything they have to say. They have made a meal out of a racing incident, of which there have been far worse incidents in past decades. It's clear to see that there was no malice, just two drivers who wouldn't back down. Just accept that their extreme rivalry may lead to further incidents and leave them to race.
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Post by Tim on Jul 30, 2021 11:01:37 GMT
Well to me it was crystal clear, it was a calculated professional foul by Hamilton. It wasn't his corner and he knew by putting himself there if Verstappen didn't back off the likelihood was he might take him, or both of them out. You don't go into Copse alongside believing a collision isn't a very likely outcome, especially on lap 1 - it was a shit or bust move and Hamilton knew exactly what he was doing IMO. A "don't mess with me from now on" statement of intent to Verstappen and he nearly got away with it. A very brave or reckless move depending on your point of view, but I think Max may view Lewis a little differently going forward. Hamilton is many things, but he's a pure racer and he's nobodies fool.
I also don't agree with the stewards decision, it should have been tougher and l feel Bernie Ecclestone's summation of the incident is the correct one.
Now there's a thing, me agreeing with Bernie Ecclestone!
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Post by MartinT on Jul 31, 2021 15:23:49 GMT
Hungary qualy - Hamilton back on top, Sainz crashes with damage. What a shame the crowd boo'd while he was being interviewed. Enjoy watching a seven-time world champion in action while you still can. Soon he'll have retired and moved on.
Times
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:15.419
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:15.734
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1:15.840
4 Sergio Perez Red Bull 1:16.421
5 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1:16.483
6 Lando Norris McLaren 1:16.489
7 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1:16.496
8 Esteban Ocon Alpine 1:16.653
9 Fernando Alonso Alpine 1:16.15
10 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1:16.750
11 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1:16.871
12 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 1:16.893
13 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1:17.564
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1:17.583
15 Carlos Sainz Ferrari no time
16 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:17.919
17 George Russell Williams 1:17.944
18 Nicholas Latifi Williams 1:18.036
19 Nikita Mazepin Haas 1:18.922
20 Mick Schumacher Haas no time
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Post by ant on Aug 1, 2021 16:06:34 GMT
Well that was a race and a half
What an absolute ballsup by bottas, i think his mercedes seat next year is gone after that absolute shocker
Alonso has most definitely still got it, fabulous racing between him and hamilton, brilliant drive from hamilton after that utter cockup of a second start. vettel has still got it too, brilliant from him in dirty air for the whole race in a car not significantly faster than the alpine, and brilliant from ocon. kept his head, didnt bottle it and soaked up every single move from seb.
3 multiple world champions in the top 5, didnt think id see that this year
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Post by MartinT on Aug 1, 2021 16:12:44 GMT
Result
1 Esteban Ocon Alpine
2 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin 1.918s
3 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 2.540s
4 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 15.018s
5 Fernando Alonso Alpine 15.651s
6 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 63.614s
7 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri 75.803s
8 Nicholas Latifi Williams 77.910s
9 George Russell Williams 79.094s
10 Max Verstappen Red Bull 80.244s
11 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1 lap
12 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren 1 lap
13 Mick Schumacher Haas 1 lap
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 1 lap
Did not finish
Nikita Mazepin Haas – pit lane crash with Kimi Raikkonen lap 5
Lando Norris McLaren – crash damage lap 3
Sergio Perez Red Bull – crash lap 1
Lance Stroll Aston Martin – crash lap 1
Charles Leclerc Ferrari – crash lap 1
Valtteri Bottas Mercedes – crash lap 1
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Post by robbiegong on Aug 1, 2021 20:18:28 GMT
Well that was a race and a half What an absolute ballsup by bottas, i think his mercedes seat next year is gone after that absolute shocker Alonso has most definitely still got it, fabulous racing between him and hamilton, brilliant drive from hamilton after that utter cockup of a second start. vettel has still got it too, brilliant from him in dirty air for the whole race in a car not significantly faster than the alpine, and brilliant from ocon. kept his head, didnt bottle it and soaked up every single move from seb. 3 multiple world champions in the top 5, didnt think id see that this year Yeah, exciting race. LH was wasted at the end, you could see it. combination of one heck of a gruelling race and long covid by the looks of things, you could see and almost feel the fatigue, the hard breathing. Covid buggers your lungs so I hope he gets some good rest and rejuvenation over the summer break. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 1, 2021 21:05:26 GMT
Long COVID seems to be a right bugger to shake off, if it's even possible at the moment. I'm sure he'll be getting the best medical advice but it's a worrying development.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 1, 2021 21:41:09 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Aug 1, 2021 21:52:51 GMT
Now that is just damned bad luck. Vettel just cannot catch a break!
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Post by robbiegong on Aug 2, 2021 9:14:06 GMT
Now that is just damned bad luck. Vettel just cannot catch a break! True, what a shame for him, that'll be gutting. F1.... so many areas to cover off in regards to the rules |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 2, 2021 21:10:18 GMT
Updated Hungarian Grand Prix classification in full…
1. Esteban Ocon (Alpine)
2. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) +2.736
3. Carlos Sainz (Ferrari) +15.018
4. Fernando Alonso (Alpine) +15.651
5. Pierre Gasly (AlphaTauri) +1’03.614
6. Yuki Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) +1’15.803
7. Nicholas Latifi (Williams) +1’17.910
8. George Russell (Williams) +1’19.094
9. Max Verstappen (Red Bull) +1’20.244
10. Kimi Raikkonen (Alfa Romeo) +1 lap
11. Daniel Ricciardo (McLaren) +1 lap
12. Mick Schumacher (Haas) +1 lap
13. Antonio Giovinazzi (Alfa Romeo) +1 lap
DNF
Nikita Mazepin (Haas)
Lando Norris (McLaren)
Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes)
Sergio Perez (Red Bull)
Charles Leclerc (Ferrari)
Lance Stroll (Aston Martin)
Disqualified
Sebastian Vettel (Aston Martin)
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 3, 2021 9:22:53 GMT
Very interested to find out how Hamilton gets on with long Covid.
Hoping for the best and quickly but that may not happen
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Post by MartinT on Aug 3, 2021 9:29:50 GMT
It could shorten his F1 career quite dramatically if he can't retain his fitness.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 3, 2021 11:09:24 GMT
Quite
The not dissimilar Epstein Barr knocked Mark Cavendish for a few years
The boss has had her post viral for over 15 years
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