Fro
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Post by Fro on Jun 27, 2024 16:40:56 GMT
No offense, since I used to shoot a Pentax 67 medium format camera, but that has to be one of the ugliest cameras Pentax has ever designed.
Hopefully it captures fine images on film!
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 11, 2024 8:01:49 GMT
Ok analogue lovers this looks like a must for us all!  |
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 11, 2024 8:55:56 GMT
I saw that a while back and enjoyed it.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 15, 2024 14:56:25 GMT
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Post by petea on Jul 15, 2024 16:11:34 GMT
I have been toying with the idea of a Nikon Z body for some time, but only to use attached to a microscope, and then in tethered mode. I’m not a great fan of EVFs, but I do like Nikon bodies and lenses for small format shooting with (in the digital realm) the D3 / D3x being my favourites. However, I have been distracted from buying a Z body by the release of the Sony A9III, mainly because of the Universal Shutter which eliminates all of the rolling shutter artefacts that can plaque high speed capture. A pricy option though.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 15, 2024 17:07:25 GMT
I agree entirely re EVF's Pete - I'm not 100% sure I can get on with one but everything else I have seen about the camera looks most appealing for my intended uses.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 15, 2024 17:40:50 GMT
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Post by petea on Jul 15, 2024 20:51:06 GMT
Or just learn how to take photographs!  |
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 15, 2024 23:06:40 GMT
Yes, that kind of thing has been around for a while now, Paul. The ultimate conclusion of the technology is, I think, that some time in the future, mankind will have 'The Photo' - the one image that means no more image making is necessary! |
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Post by petea on Jul 16, 2024 8:35:29 GMT
I must have words, Jules as your post has just cost me £4.6K! . I found an A9III for sale on eBay that had been used for just 3 days for a specific shoot (hugh speed photography) in April and was now being sold as the job would not be repeated. It had the extended grip and 3 spare batteries and so was a good buy. I have a load of full-frame Zeiss prime video lenses and a few Sony lenses that will fit although the main use with be for photomicrography as the EVF and Sony’s menu system drives me nuts (I have a couple of A7s and even the RX100 is a mystery to me even after owning most of the various generations of them!). |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 16, 2024 9:52:07 GMT
Lol- don't be sending me a bill Pete!
Sounds great and with a set of Zeiss primes too ... mmmm nice.
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Post by Clive on Jul 16, 2024 10:18:27 GMT
I agree entirely re EVF's Pete - I'm not 100% sure I can get on with one but everything else I have seen about the camera looks most appealing for my intended uses. When switching to MILC I was concerned I’d struggle with the EVF. We all have differing sensitivities, I soon discovered I loved the EVF due to its brightness and WYSIWYG functionality. Oh yes, also 100% and 200% zoom to assist MF. BTW Julian, if you like the idea of back-to-basics MF, this lens is supposed to be a peach, would match a Zf particularly well and the combination even does face/eye detection in MF. Probably works with the Z6iii too. www.voigtlaender.de/z-mount/35mm-12-apo-lanthar-aspherical/?lang=en |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 16, 2024 10:36:25 GMT
I agree entirely re EVF's Pete - I'm not 100% sure I can get on with one but everything else I have seen about the camera looks most appealing for my intended uses. When switching to MILC I was concerned I’d struggle with the EVF. We all have differing sensitivities, I soon discovered I loved the EVF due to its brightness and WYSIWYG functionality. BTW Julian, if you like the idea of back-to-basics MF, this lens is supposed to be a peach, would match a Zf particularly well and the combination even does face/eye detection in MF. Probably works with the Z6iii too. www.voigtlaender.de/z-mount/35mm-12-apo-lanthar-aspherical/?lang=en Very interesting Clive and gives me hope for the EVF. One thing about the lens - if it's MF how on earth does eye detection come into it? No comprendo amigo. Before I go full frame I am going to buy one more DX lens - a Nikon 24mm 1.8 that will give me a roughly 35mm equivalent. I want to see how I get on shooting portraits at this focal length for a more naturalistic look. |
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Post by Clive on Jul 16, 2024 12:23:11 GMT
When switching to MILC I was concerned I’d struggle with the EVF. We all have differing sensitivities, I soon discovered I loved the EVF due to its brightness and WYSIWYG functionality. BTW Julian, if you like the idea of back-to-basics MF, this lens is supposed to be a peach, would match a Zf particularly well and the combination even does face/eye detection in MF. Probably works with the Z6iii too. www.voigtlaender.de/z-mount/35mm-12-apo-lanthar-aspherical/?lang=en Very interesting Clive and gives me hope for the EVF. One thing about the lens - if it's MF how on earth does eye detection come into it? No comprendo amigo. Before I go full frame I am going to buy one more DX lens - a Nikon 24mm 1.8 that will give me a roughly 35mm equivalent. I want to see how I get on shooting portraits at this focal length for a more naturalistic look. The wonder on the latest Nikon cameras….if the MF lens has electrical contacts and transmits info about itself (EXIF data) then the MF indicators and subject detection work, when manual focus is achieved the box in the EVF turns green. The Cosina Voightlanders have the required contacts and protocols. Old lenses can even to adapted though this is DIY using what’s called a Dandelion chip. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 16, 2024 12:39:06 GMT
Very interesting Clive and gives me hope for the EVF. One thing about the lens - if it's MF how on earth does eye detection come into it? No comprendo amigo. Before I go full frame I am going to buy one more DX lens - a Nikon 24mm 1.8 that will give me a roughly 35mm equivalent. I want to see how I get on shooting portraits at this focal length for a more naturalistic look. The wonder on the latest Nikon cameras….if the MF lens has electrical contacts and transmits info about itself (EXIF data) then the MF indicators and subject detection work, when manual focus is achieved the box in the EVF turns green. The Cosina Voightlanders have the required contacts and protocols. Old lenses can even to adapted though this is DIY using what’s called a Dandelion chip. So you are saying that if I was shooting portraits with that 35mm lens the EVF would tell me when I had achieved manual focus on the eyes? That's amazing. Autofocus on eyes would also be incredibly useful to me. |
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Post by Clive on Jul 16, 2024 12:51:04 GMT
The wonder on the latest Nikon cameras….if the MF lens has electrical contacts and transmits info about itself (EXIF data) then the MF indicators and subject detection work, when manual focus is achieved the box in the EVF turns green. The Cosina Voightlanders have the required contacts and protocols. Old lenses can even to adapted though this is DIY using what’s called a Dandelion chip. So you are saying that if I was shooting portraits with that 35mm lens the EVF would tell me when I had achieved manual focus on the eyes? That's amazing. Autofocus on eyes would also be incredibly useful to me. Yes. Here’s a write up. www.techradar.com/cameras/this-amazing-nikon-zf-feature-changes-manual-focusing-forever-and-it-even-works-with-vintage-lenses |
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 16, 2024 13:19:25 GMT
I don't understand how this is better than what I have been doing with my Canon DSLRs and manual lenses for years. When I use an adapter with a focus confirm chip, the focus point lights up when correct focus is acquired. It will also beep if I want it to. (I don't want it to!) I don't need a box around the subject's eyes - I can see where they are.
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Post by Clive on Jul 16, 2024 13:21:26 GMT
The wonder on the latest Nikon cameras….if the MF lens has electrical contacts and transmits info about itself (EXIF data) then the MF indicators and subject detection work, when manual focus is achieved the box in the EVF turns green. The Cosina Voightlanders have the required contacts and protocols. Old lenses can even to adapted though this is DIY using what’s called a Dandelion chip. So you are saying that if I was shooting portraits with that 35mm lens the EVF would tell me when I had achieved manual focus on the eyes? That's amazing. Autofocus on eyes would also be incredibly useful to me. I’ve not used that lens but I’m sure you’ll get the green box for focus confirmation, whether eye detection works well enough you’d need to check. If you are _really_ picky you should understand that some folks find that Nikon eye detection tends to prioritise eyelashes. You need to be shooting wide open with a f1.2 lens for it to matter, though some pixel peep at 100% then complain… |
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Post by Clive on Jul 16, 2024 13:29:06 GMT
I don't understand how this is better than what I have been doing with my Canon DSLRs and manual lenses for years. When I use an adapter with a focus confirm chip, the focus point lights up when correct focus is acquired. It will also beep if I want it to. (I don't want it to!) I don't need a box around the subject's eyes - I can see where they are. The SD seems to please or surprise people but I agree that you point the focus box where you want it. The benefit of mirrorless in the area is that the focus box can be placed anywhere in the EVF so there’s not need to focus and recompose which reduces accuracy. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 16, 2024 14:05:00 GMT
Yes if eye detection was accurate I would be very happy not to focus and then recompose before shooting as usual - I can then concentrate totally on the shot composition.
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