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Post by MartinT on Jul 5, 2020 22:03:07 GMT
I doubt Bottas would have obeyed and Hamilton doesn't like winning that way.
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Post by pre65 on Jul 5, 2020 22:08:59 GMT
Speaking about Hamilton, I understand he is looking for £40 million to renew his contract with Mercedes, And Toto wants Hamilton to take a cut in the region of £20 million.
Now, with Vettel in the wings without a drive next season, could that develop into an interesting situation ?
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Post by MartinT on Jul 5, 2020 22:12:25 GMT
That story is fake news. Both have announced that contract talks haven't even begun yet.
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Post by speedysteve on Jul 5, 2020 22:25:37 GMT
I doubt Bottas would have obeyed and Hamilton doesn't like winning that way. No, they would have swapped again before the line or just factored in the 5 seconds, with Hammy ahead. Once Albon out it was lowish risk. 1-2 merc, Botty gets the win. Merc not thinking fast! It was the first thing Coulthard and Webber thought of, seconds after the penalty was shown, with plenty of laps to do it. |
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Post by Firebottle on Jul 6, 2020 5:45:08 GMT
Hamilton was robbed IMO, the in car footage showed he did nothing wrong.
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Post by jachawk on Jul 6, 2020 17:20:56 GMT
It's racing pure and simple, if they all left enough space to get a lorry through then they would be criticised for not defending the line, all the Hamilton haters are baying for blood though. In my opinion it was a risky move by Albon with a 50/50 chance of success, experience is what he needs and it would have told him to sit tight and wait for a better opportunity, instead he tries to drive round the outside again and throws away a solid third place.
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Post by robbiegong on Jul 6, 2020 22:22:10 GMT
It's racing pure and simple, if they all left enough space to get a lorry through then they would be criticised for not defending the line, all the Hamilton haters are baying for blood though. In my opinion it was a risky move by Albon with a 50/50 chance of success, experience is what he needs and it would have told him to sit tight and wait for a better opportunity, instead he tries to drive round the outside again and throws away a solid third place. |
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Post by robbiegong on Jul 6, 2020 22:22:28 GMT
+1
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Post by MartinT on Jul 8, 2020 11:32:56 GMT
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Post by jachawk on Jul 8, 2020 12:20:57 GMT
I'm a big Alonso fan, not sure if Renault are capable of mixing it with the 3 top teams though which will frustrate him, i think the even bigger question is where will Vettel end up after his Ferrari contract expires? personally I like Seb he's got to a stage in his carrier where he dosn't need to prove anything and maybe that's what's missing i don't know, i think he needs a solid season with Ferrari either beating his team mate or within a few points and then i think the offers will start to come. |
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Post by pre65 on Jul 8, 2020 12:23:23 GMT
I'm a big Alonso fan, not sure if Renault are capable of mixing it with the 3 top teams though which will frustrate him, i think the even bigger question is where will Vettel end up after his Ferrari contract expires? personally I like Seb he's got to a stage in his carrier where he doesn't need to prove anything and maybe that's what's missing i don't know, i think he needs a solid season with Ferrari either beating his team mate or within a few points and then i think the offers will start to come. |
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Post by jachawk on Jul 8, 2020 12:39:38 GMT
I'm a big Alonso fan, not sure if Renault are capable of mixing it with the 3 top teams though which will frustrate him, i think the even bigger question is where will Vettel end up after his Ferrari contract expires? personally I like Seb he's got to a stage in his carrier where he doesn't need to prove anything and maybe that's what's missing i don't know, i think he needs a solid season with Ferrari either beating his team mate or within a few points and then i think the offers will start to come. If he has a good season then possibly Merc as they would love a German driver in the Silver Arrow, but he would need a really good season, maybe Alfa Romeo as a replacement for Kimi if the 2020 season doesn't go well he may think this is the time to move on as he'll be 42 next year, or even Haas, but as i've said i think the ball is in his court and he needs a solid season with few mistakes to make other teams sit up and take notice of him. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 8, 2020 13:40:39 GMT
I think Vettel has cooked his goose with the latest in a long series of on-track errors. I can't see Mercedes wanting him when they have George Russell on their books.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 8, 2020 13:42:44 GMT
I'm a big Alonso fan, not sure if Renault are capable of mixing it with the 3 top teams though which will frustrate him I fear that Alonso has 'done a Schumacher' with a return to F1 that will fizzle out with nothing gained. |
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Post by jachawk on Jul 8, 2020 14:46:59 GMT
I'm a big Alonso fan, not sure if Renault are capable of mixing it with the 3 top teams though which will frustrate him I fear that Alonso has 'done a Schumacher' with a return to F1 that will fizzle out with nothing gained. I think you may be right Martin |
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Post by speedysteve on Jul 8, 2020 17:50:39 GMT
I'm a big Alonso fan, not sure if Renault are capable of mixing it with the 3 top teams though which will frustrate him I fear that Alonso has 'done a Schumacher' with a return to F1 that will fizzle out with nothing gained. Yeah, a return with a Merc seat would have been different, but no dice. The team that propelled Renault to the top back then, is long gone. Let's hope for some stellar drives though. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 11, 2020 15:56:30 GMT
Now that's more like it. Hamilton teaches them how to drive in the wet. Look at George Russell in 12th and Sainz in 3rd!
Looking forward to the race tomorrow.
Times
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:19.273
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1.216s
3 Carlos Sainz McLaren 1.398s
4 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1.428s
5 Esteban Ocon Renault 1.649s
6 Lando Norris McLaren 1.652s
7 Alex Albon Red Bull 1.738s
8 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri 1.755s
9 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1.919s
10 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 2.378s
11 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1:19.628
12 George Russell Williams 1:19.636
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Post by jachawk on Jul 11, 2020 18:15:25 GMT
Hoping for a wet race tomorrow which will be easier on the cars hopefully more will finish
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Post by speedysteve on Jul 11, 2020 18:44:17 GMT
Get in there Lewis!
Rain master 1.2s (blows smoke from the barrel).
Respect!
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Post by jachawk on Jul 12, 2020 15:53:01 GMT
What happened Charles!!!! Like Albon he tried a marginal move which put him out of the race, 2 or 3 more bad finishes and i think Ferrari will pull the plug on 2020 which to be honest i think will happen as they have dropped from a potential 2nd place team down to maybe 5th place team. Merc continue to show dominance, the haters will continue to hate and not give Hamilton the credit he actually deserves, but he didn't put a foot wrong in qualifying or the race.
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