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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 9:25:08 GMT
I guess class D amplifiers divide opinions as to if they are really good
A few of us here quite like them I am mostly thinking Jerry I have gotten good results but never really stuck with them in that constant quest looking for something that would make the difference
I think Class D often provides good value but to get the best out of it a lot of attention has to be paid to providing clean power quickly otherwise the amplifier will not perform at its best
I think I finally reached my endgame in terms of amplifiers and feel surprised to be saying this using a Class D design
What are other people's experience of Class D
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 25, 2019 14:45:55 GMT
I love the sound from my TAD 2500. Bought on sound not class. I'm an equal opportunities listener  |
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Post by petea on Oct 25, 2019 14:55:15 GMT
I have to say that all of my power amplification is Class A. Valve in the case of the Lab12 units, transistor for the Teddy Pardo and Onix units and hybrid for the Lector VM-200. The main amplifier in the UK system is the Lector (with the Lab12 for high days and holidays!) and Lab12 for Germany. My only experience of Class D is when I visited Max Townshend and heard his hybrid system. The power amplifier / crossovers were Class A valve for the super tweeters and Class D for the bass / mid drivers (his own design speakers / drivers and amplifiers) and it was truly impressive. Done well they seem to work very well indeed.
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 25, 2019 14:56:19 GMT
Class D rules.  I remain convinced that my Class D Marantz is my Destination Amp.  That's what it stands for - D for Destination.  |
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 15:44:27 GMT
I have to say that all of my power amplification is Class A. Valve in the case of the Lab12 units, transistor for the Teddy Pardo and Onix units and hybrid for the Lector VM-200. The main amplifier in the UK system is the Lector (with the Lab12 for high days and holidays!) and Lab12 for Germany. My only experience of Class D is when I visited Max Townshend and heard his hybrid system. The power amplifier / crossovers were Class A valve for the super tweeters and Class D for the bass / mid drivers (his own design speakers / drivers and amplifiers) and it was truly impressive. Done well they seem to work very well indeed. That a very interesting system that Max has |
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 15:47:15 GMT
I love the sound from my TAD 2500. Bought on sound not class. I'm an equal opportunities listener That how it should be Mike A lovelly looking amplifier |
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 15:48:40 GMT
Class D rules. I remain convinced that my Class D Marantz is my Destination Amp. That's what it stands for - D for Destination. I kind of feel I am at the same point |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 25, 2019 16:02:32 GMT
I love the sound from my TAD 2500. Bought on sound not class. I'm an equal opportunities listener That how it should be Mike A lovelly looking amplifier Black too ! |
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Post by petea on Oct 25, 2019 16:26:52 GMT
I have to say that all of my power amplification is Class A. Valve in the case of the Lab12 units, transistor for the Teddy Pardo and Onix units and hybrid for the Lector VM-200. The main amplifier in the UK system is the Lector (with the Lab12 for high days and holidays!) and Lab12 for Germany. My only experience of Class D is when I visited Max Townshend and heard his hybrid system. The power amplifier / crossovers were Class A valve for the super tweeters and Class D for the bass / mid drivers (his own design speakers / drivers and amplifiers) and it was truly impressive. Done well they seem to work very well indeed. That a very interesting system that Max has It is indeed. Utterly unique. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 16:40:14 GMT
Class D designed correctly is very hard to encroach on imho However the vast majority are piss poor two dimensional, clean, dynamic soulless boxes of unmusical dirge of the highest order and you can quote me on that.Mr Class Tony for 15 years plus  |
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 16:41:40 GMT
That a very interesting system that Max has It is indeed. Utterly unique. Years ago I seriously considered that small class D amplifier that a few of us loved Jerry brought it to our attention a class A/B for the mid bass and of course a pro class D for the bass Go totally active I might of done it if I had enough money I think it would of given a interesting result |
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 16:47:30 GMT
Class D designed correctly is very hard to encroach on imho However the vast majority are piss poor two dimensional, clean, dynamic soulless boxes of unmusical dirge of the highest order and you can quote me on that.Mr Class Tony for 15 years plus I heard quite a few turds also but no where near your experience What would you say are the biggest factors in getting it right |
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Post by The Brookmeister on Oct 25, 2019 17:04:35 GMT
Class D designed correctly is very hard to encroach on imho However the vast majority are piss poor two dimensional, clean, dynamic soulless boxes of unmusical dirge of the highest order and you can quote me on that.Mr Class Tony for 15 years plus As we reside in the shall we say higher area of hifi Tony not many Class D amps will beat what we both use, Devialet as an example leaves me stone cold, I won't mention any others that I have tried as its not fair. I am currently using Thivan Labs amplifiers and to compare them with anything Class D would be utterly pointless. There may be brands I have not heard but the technology is still in its infancy. Class D has been around a long time but has not been done very well so far.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 17:18:22 GMT
Interesting Dave, completely agree on the Devialet 100% soulless dross of the first order.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 25, 2019 17:46:33 GMT
I find it very hard to imagine the Belles SA-100 class AB MOSFET power amp being bettered in my system for any reasonable amount. It's my end amp, never likely to be replaced.
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 18:40:30 GMT
The Belles is a really nice sounding amp Martin ( another amp that is effortless and musical) I would be very surprised if you sold it.
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Post by John on Oct 25, 2019 18:41:59 GMT
A low powered highly engineered Class A design is pretty far away from Class D David
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 7:43:03 GMT
I’ve not yet heard a class D hifi set up.
From all I’ve read, 95% of them don’t appeal to me at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 7:53:32 GMT
Are Class D the same as what was know as T or whatever?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 9:11:15 GMT
I’ve not yet heard a class D hifi set up. From all I’ve read, 95% of them don’t appeal to me at
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I would like to correct you have listened to a 'D' class derivative last year on your visit here I believe your Sanderson was a class d as well possibly?
The liquid music amplifiers are a D style amp just with a few improvements lol
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