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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 10:53:06 GMT
Nice one, Jules.
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 17, 2018 11:39:39 GMT
So how is this stacking up against the vinyl then? Early days Tony but here are some brief thoughts so far.  One thing I can safely say is that I'm enjoying it much more than I thought I would. Advantages of digital - Choice: only a few of the classical new releases are released on vinyl and are expensive with variable pressing quality, so having access to these on spotify is really wonderful - Certain sonic benefits - low noise floor, superior resolution & detail. Combine these with good dynamics and you have some very exciting recordings indeed - Most of the new classical releases are very well recorded nowadays - Less stress. This is a big one for me and I don't mean it flippantly at all: I'm not anxious listening to the music thinking about any surface noise that may or may not be about to spoil my analogue experience - Less faff. I must admit I'm so enjoying the simplicity of it all right now with spotify. No disappointments and hassle from buying badly graded vinyl and no long cleaning sessions on the RCM Advantages of vinyl - Feels closer to the ‘live experience’ and less like a recording - Most natural reproduction of timbre - Impression of more depth to the sound - For old recordings so far I have found that analogue is significantly better than the digital equivalents on spotify, this applies to both rock and classical Early days yet, Jules, as you say. I bet you spent years honing your analog playback to get it to add just the colourations you like sound at its best!  There's lots to play around with to get the digital system to sound equally enjoyable. Interesting comment about the inferiority of older recordings from streaming. I generally find the opposite - e.g. 1960s and 70s recordings which were quite bright and forward (e.g. CBS) are much more listenable streamed. Classic DG recordings, as well, which have a deserved reputation for being a bit cloudy and vague, have imo come up better with streaming. I've no idea why this should be so, but that's what I find. Mind you, I'm only talking about classical. Not sure I have missed analog at all, tbh. I really do think it gets in the way of the music. |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 17, 2018 11:41:28 GMT
How's the linear PSU with the Topping D30 DAC?
Worthwhile?
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 17, 2018 16:06:07 GMT
How's the linear PSU with the Topping D30 DAC? Worthwhile? I will be reporting back on that! |
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 17, 2018 16:14:15 GMT
Early days Tony but here are some brief thoughts so far. One thing I can safely say is that I'm enjoying it much more than I thought I would. Advantages of digital - Choice: only a few of the classical new releases are released on vinyl and are expensive with variable pressing quality, so having access to these on spotify is really wonderful - Certain sonic benefits - low noise floor, superior resolution & detail. Combine these with good dynamics and you have some very exciting recordings indeed - Most of the new classical releases are very well recorded nowadays - Less stress. This is a big one for me and I don't mean it flippantly at all: I'm not anxious listening to the music thinking about any surface noise that may or may not be about to spoil my analogue experience - Less faff. I must admit I'm so enjoying the simplicity of it all right now with spotify. No disappointments and hassle from buying badly graded vinyl and no long cleaning sessions on the RCM Advantages of vinyl - Feels closer to the ‘live experience’ and less like a recording - Most natural reproduction of timbre - Impression of more depth to the sound - For old recordings so far I have found that analogue is significantly better than the digital equivalents on spotify, this applies to both rock and classical Early days yet, Jules, as you say. I bet you spent years honing your analog playback to get it to add just the colourations you like sound at its best! There's lots to play around with to get the digital system to sound equally enjoyable. Interesting comment about the inferiority of older recordings from streaming. I generally find the opposite - e.g. 1960s and 70s recordings which were quite bright and forward (e.g. CBS) are much more listenable streamed. Classic DG recordings, as well, which have a deserved reputation for being a bit cloudy and vague, have imo come up better with streaming. I've no idea why this should be so, but that's what I find. Mind you, I'm only talking about classical. Not sure I have missed analog at all, tbh. I really do think it gets in the way of the music. Jerry I've not listened to so many older classical albums on spoti as of course I'm catching up on the newer releases; to find one instantly available on spoti is just such a pleasure. It's the older rock albums that I've found to be very hit and miss. This is where re-mastering at last seems to have a point - I always avoided them like the plague on vinyl but it can be a different experience in digital. Yes you are right I spent many years upgrading and tweaking to get my vinyl system to a point where I didn't feel the need to change anything. I'm sure I'll be looking for more to play around with for the digital system in the very near future but for now just looking to get the basics right. With the right recordings it's sounding pretty damn good as it stands! |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 17, 2018 19:18:52 GMT
That's great to hear, Jules.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 21, 2018 15:27:52 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Dec 21, 2018 15:57:10 GMT
I would superclock your DAC if at all possible. The Pi end is already dealt with by the DigiOne. It worked for me.
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Post by John on Dec 21, 2018 16:41:46 GMT
Superclocks work well
Most reclokers are usually USB
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 21, 2018 17:15:32 GMT
So would the Remedy Reclocker be of no benefit in between my digione and DAC?
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Post by John on Dec 21, 2018 17:16:59 GMT
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Post by John on Dec 21, 2018 17:19:02 GMT
So would the Remedy Reclocker be of no benefit in between my digione and DAC? The honest answer is I am not sure get on sale or return Stans DAC reclocks and sounds great with the DigiOne using this function seemed to help. But no grantees |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 21, 2018 17:19:25 GMT
There's a difference between reclocking the S/PDIF data and reclocking the input processor inside the DAC.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 21, 2018 17:22:03 GMT
Yep, thanks Martin, got that now - the ifi unit looks worth a try. Another thing to plug into mains though!
Needs 5V - how is yours powered John?
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Post by John on Dec 21, 2018 17:26:40 GMT
I have the a Coherent PSU powering both the SOtM Ultra Neo 12v and Seg 15v
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 21, 2018 17:28:20 GMT
Are you not using one of those spdif ipurifiers John?
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digititis
Dec 21, 2018 17:29:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by John on Dec 21, 2018 17:29:39 GMT
Nope have a Ifi USB silencer on my USB cable
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Post by The Brookmeister on Dec 21, 2018 18:21:34 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it?
Just sayin like!
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Post by Slinger on Dec 21, 2018 18:38:18 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Just sayin like! If analogue is better why do you sell so much kit to upgrade it with? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 18:39:31 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Just sayin like! I find it interesting that I started using digital when I was at JVC in the late 70's and have always had a good digital system. The OPPO player is great, the Mac based streamer is good, the pro .wav files are very good indeed... Yet my analogue sources ie Turntable, R2R and even well recorded cassette, just blow the digital stuff away and I'm sorry to say I find services like Spotify totally execrable in comparison. Digital for me is for background music, not serious listening. |
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