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Post by John on Dec 21, 2018 18:47:23 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Just sayin like! Keeps people employed |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 21, 2018 18:59:49 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Just sayin like! You ever tried upgrading a phono cartridge? Makes no difference at all, does it? Just sayin'  |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 21, 2018 22:00:34 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Because digital only comes good with those upgrades. At that level, it becomes more than good, it becomes superb. Then again, you have to treat analogue carefully to get the best from it, too. |
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2018 8:59:03 GMT
I had a very strange dream last night - I was back at school (a regular theme) and this time I was helping to unpack turntables at one point!
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Post by Tim on Dec 22, 2018 10:17:06 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Just sayin like! You're havin' a laugh like . . .
Yep, just buy a Rega P1 and you're done, no need for cables, phono stages, slate plinths, wooden plinths, concrete plinths, tonearams, technoboots, power supplies, racks, cartridges, headshells, pro levelling tools, platter weights, turntable mats, record cleaners, brushes, fluid, anti-static sleeves, new bearings, new platters, new belts, stylus cleaning putty, antistatic guns, stylus gauges, protractors, mirrors . . . it's endless, I could fill the page.
Having said that I have to agree in part though, which must be a first I don't spend half my life/money fecking around trying to make something sound different (some call it better), I'd rather just listen to music. But I don't have audio-nervosa or think of music as a hobby.
I don't really understand the endless tinkering and tail chasing for vinyl or digital once you reach a certain level, but different strokes for different folks and if it makes you happy then why not? Funny thing is I see so many people frustrated by the whole thing, saying they are going to give up and sell everything. So what is it they are interested in, the music or the tinkering? This does make me sad when people get so tied up in knots, it actually puts them off music. More a case of forum discontentment disease and coveting thy neighbour I suspect.
Oops, a wee bit off topic Jules, but I thought I'd reply as this made me chuckle on a Saturday morning, so thanks for that David  |
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2018 11:26:09 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2018 11:29:28 GMT
If digital is so good why do you all spend so much time and money trying to up-grade it? Just sayin like! I don't really understand the endless tinkering and tail chasing for vinyl or digital once you reach a certain level, but different strokes for different folks and if it makes you happy then why not? Indeed. I reached a point with my vinyl system where after a number of years I was entirely happy with what I was hearing and didn't feel the need to go chasing better performance. My goal would be to reach the same point with the digital where I don't feel the urge to tinker. Hopefully I will achieve this more quickly than I did with the vinyl ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 11:36:53 GMT
Both can be very good, but it costs more for a quality vinyl set up and is more intricate to obtain the best out of it these days imho
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 17, 2019 11:51:26 GMT
First time I have powered up the system for a long while today for a number of reasons. I’m blasting out a 2015 remaster of Scorpions ‘World Wide Live’ and it sounds astonishing. The vinyl was always good but this is exceptional. Massive, massive soundstage, lots of air and separation; punchy bass. Everything I would look for in a great rock recording - the twin guitars just leap out of the speakers and grab you by the throat. So if this is my new ‘base point’ it’s really exciting to know that there are still some upgrades left to lift performance even higher. Talking of which - the new LPSU - not sure what this is bringing to the party yet, need to do more listening; no night and day improvements. Tried it with a fancy Wireworld mains cable that I have, again, not sure about benefits. John - I reckon your rig should eat this up - let me know how it sounds … |
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 17, 2019 13:57:41 GMT
Encouraging developments, Jules
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 17, 2019 16:22:12 GMT
Disappointed the lpsu isn't giving me an obvious boost - can 'burn in' be an issue here?
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 17, 2019 16:30:18 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised
Fingers crossed
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Post by Slinger on Jan 17, 2019 17:18:02 GMT
Disappointed the lpsu isn't giving me an obvious boost - can 'burn in' be an issue here? Remind me, (us?) Jules - what's the new lpsu feeding? If it's the DAC I would have definitely expected the lpsu to affect it positively. |
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 17, 2019 17:23:01 GMT
I think it's for his Topping D30 DAC - the lpsu worked a treat on mine; better focussed imaging mainly and a more 3D sound.
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 17, 2019 17:32:59 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 17, 2019 17:38:57 GMT
Something else I noticed today - on spotify there can be a HUGE difference in recorded levels between rock and classical. My passive goes up to 130 steps. Normally I have it around 90 but on a couple of classical albums I had to just about max it out!  |
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Post by John on Jan 17, 2019 18:31:14 GMT
First time I have powered up the system for a long while today for a number of reasons. I’m blasting out a 2015 remaster of Scorpions ‘World Wide Live’ and it sounds astonishing. The vinyl was always good but this is exceptional. Massive, massive soundstage, lots of air and separation; punchy bass. Everything I would look for in a great rock recording - the twin guitars just leap out of the speakers and grab you by the throat. So if this is my new ‘base point’ it’s really exciting to know that there are still some upgrades left to lift performance even higher. Talking of which - the new LPSU - not sure what this is bringing to the party yet, need to do more listening; no night and day improvements. Tried it with a fancy Wireworld mains cable that I have, again, not sure about benefits. John - I reckon your rig should eat this up - let me know how it sounds … Yes it rocks on my system |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 17, 2019 19:10:30 GMT
Give the LPSU some more time. It took my Coherent QP-1 2-3 weeks to come on song, before that it was flat and lifeless. Electrolytic caps take time to form.
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 18, 2019 14:56:10 GMT
Thank you Martin - I will leave it in the system to mature ... Another tweakette installed today - an Isotek Isoplug which I have put into my 6 way mains block. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 22, 2019 14:13:24 GMT
Well folks it has been quite a wait but the Sonus Fabers speakers are officially now in position! As per SF instructions I have the drivers firing directly at the listening position. Here are some very early thoughts. The first thing I noticed is that there is much more bass, which is deeper and better defined than anything I have previously owned - I can now really follow bass lines and appreciate them more … This of course makes for a much more rhythmical experience on everything I’ve listened to so far. Feeling the bass in my seat is novel - the third movement of the Saint Saens Organ Symphony with Jean Guillou on keys is pretty thunderous indeed. Certainly I’m starting to hear some more details in the orchestral parts to this recording that I hadn’t appreciated or even come across really! This gives me an extra level of ‘engagement’ with the music if you like … The climax of the movement shows no problem putting across the excitement and dynamics; the kettle drum and cymbal crashes are quite explosive, as they are in the Allegro of the live Shosta 10 from Nelsons - I actually had to turn down the volume on this a bit! Considering the size of the smaller drivers, it’s not surprising that they don’t have quite the same scale of sound as the Tannoys but the soundstage is very satisfactory and absolutely no trouble filling my listening room to punishing levels. Time for something a bit more relaxed, so I move onto the much lauded Rachel Podger Four Seasons. I am now beginning to warm to this in a way that I haven’t previously as I’m hearing subtlety, delicacy and details that have evaded me up till now which can certainly put it ahead of the pack. Then, taking the grilles off gives a bit more edge and bite to the treble and midband which I like. Finishing off with Sam Smith’s ‘Writing on the Wall’, you really fully immersed in the music with his sublime vocal. The speakers have so few hours on them I am sure they are going to open up even further and reveal more charms to me. I really want to listen to more music but better give the neighbours a break now.  |
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