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Post by MartinT on Oct 31, 2018 19:41:50 GMT
Now running MyVolumio v1.236 without issues.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 15, 2018 20:38:22 GMT
Trying Qobuz Studio hi-res on Volumio tonight. I'm pleasantly surprised by how much better the search is now, it was dreadful in earlier versions of MyVolumio. It gives very fast results making it easier to use. However, the Qobuz Connect from their application still doesn't work, meaning staying within the Volumio interface for now.
Listening to Santana Abraxas on 24/88.2 sounds superb, right up there with the SACD for resolution but offering better low level detail, especially on Singing Winds, Crying Beasts.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 15, 2018 20:49:39 GMT
Supertramp Crime of the Century at 24/192. Wow!
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Post by Slinger on Nov 15, 2018 20:54:42 GMT
I've just checked for updates and got this message in Volumio... Update v2.502 MYVOLUMIO - TIDAL and QOBUZ native integration
- Auto Sync of Favourites, Webradios and Playlist
- Remote connection to Volumio devices
NEW ADDITIONS - Add checkcontentformat = 0 to upmpdcli conf
- Anonimyze IP for GA
- Add multimedia keys support
- pi kernel bump to 4.14.71
FIXES - Better handling of error toasts
- Fix handling of uncompliant DLNA server
- fix volatile default albumart
- Fix stop state if no service is defined
- Improve volume responsiveness and add disable volume
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Post by MartinT on Nov 15, 2018 22:01:06 GMT
So we're now back on the main branch. I'm burning 2.502 onto my 2nd SD card ready for trials tomorrow.
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Post by Slinger on Nov 15, 2018 22:08:50 GMT
I'm running it, no problem. Installing it didn't even delete my custom graphics this time.
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Volumio
Nov 16, 2018 0:03:54 GMT
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Post by Clive on Nov 16, 2018 0:03:54 GMT
I find myvolumeio a tad confusing. My assumption is that if I only play my own files and listen to radio then I might as well stick with plain old volumio. Is this correct?
I think myvolumio may give shared favourites and playlists but I don't really care about that.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 16, 2018 7:07:33 GMT
MyVolumio was developed in order to integrate Qobuz and Tidal on a subscription basis as it cost them money to work with both companies to fully integrate the functionality. Now that MyVolumio has been completed, it has been moved into the main development branch and become simply Volumio again. The choice is yours whether you want to subscribe to Virtuoso, for instance, in order to be able to use the hi-res functionality. If you just want files, web radio or Spotify you can use it without subscription.
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Volumio
Nov 16, 2018 7:17:26 GMT
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Post by Clive on Nov 16, 2018 7:17:26 GMT
Thanks Martin, that makes much more sense than the volumio website!
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Post by seanm on Nov 16, 2018 8:12:27 GMT
Martin,
I have been watching your excellent work in the area of Pi/SEG/Spotify with great interest. While, I trust your testing approach and ears... Such successes from a lossy streaming service have been sticking in my throat from a theoretical/technical point of view... I am pleased that the lossless hi-res testing gets at least a "wow".
Cheers
Sean
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Post by MartinT on Nov 16, 2018 8:35:17 GMT
It's not that the hi-res streams sound so good - that's not much of a stretch, really. It's that 320k compressed Ogg can sound so close to Qobuz 16/44 as to make damn-all difference. I'm also aware that not many people have a setup that can show Spotify off to its best performance as it involves a lot of care around timing, jitter, noise and power supply quality. Thus the disbelief over my statements about Spotify.
Reality check: it had me disbelieving what I was hearing, too. There is much more to perceptive compression algorithms than I can understand but suffice to say it's getting what you can hear compared with what can be discarded pretty much spot on.
I'm rather pleased that I have spent so much time optimising my system for Spotify. It got it to a very good base level of performance before showing off hi-res in all its glory. I'm also pleased to say that Spotify still gives me a level of performance higher than I ever achieved from CD, and that makes me very happy.
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Volumio
Nov 16, 2018 9:17:13 GMT
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Post by John on Nov 16, 2018 9:17:13 GMT
I used to find Spotify not very good. But now love what it does. I wish it was a bit more easier to find music on my playlist I prefer the Tidal and roon integration better that way so might try Tidal for a month
Jitter and a very clean signal is the key
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 16, 2018 10:41:13 GMT
The choice is yours whether you want to subscribe to Virtuoso, for instance, in order to be able to use the hi-res functionality. If you just want files, web radio or Spotify you can use it without subscription. When you say hi-res, do you mean Qobuz or Tidal? Virtuoso doesn't have any effect on spotify streaming, correct? |
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 16, 2018 10:45:54 GMT
I'm rather pleased that I have spent so much time optimising my system for Spotify. It got it to a very good base level of performance before showing off hi-res in all its glory. I'm also pleased to say that Spotify still gives me a level of performance higher than I ever achieved from CD, and that makes me very happy. I'm actually surprised myself how good Spotify is sounding. Spoti Premium is 9.99 a month - at the moment, I can't see the value in paying an extra £10 a month + £3 Virtuoso subscription for 16/44 Qobuz. Qobuz 24/192 would have to be a really good step up from Spotify for me to justify the £15 a month, and they would need to have the interface running seamlessly like Spoti. |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 16, 2018 11:16:24 GMT
The choice is yours whether you want to subscribe to Virtuoso, for instance, in order to be able to use the hi-res functionality. If you just want files, web radio or Spotify you can use it without subscription. When you say hi-res, do you mean Qobuz or Tidal? Virtuoso doesn't have any effect on spotify streaming, correct? Correct and correct! |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 16, 2018 11:18:37 GMT
Spoti Premium is 9.99 a month - at the moment, I can't see the value in paying an extra £10 a month + £3 Virtuoso subscription for 16/44 Qobuz. That was EXACTLY my conclusion at the time, Jules. |
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Post by Slinger on Nov 16, 2018 15:03:09 GMT
Is it time to confuse people a bit more by talking about Volumio's audio resampling capabilities, Martin?  For instance... My target bit depth is set to "Native," rather than have Volumio force it to 16, 24, or 32 bit, but I've got my "Target Sample Rate" at 176.4. My "Resampling Algorithm Quality" is set to "Very High." I believe yours is set differently? |
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Post by John on Nov 16, 2018 15:40:45 GMT
I set up Jules Volumio as above
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Post by MartinT on Nov 16, 2018 16:03:21 GMT
My understanding is that Volumio resampling is for files, not streams.
I have mine set to 24/88.2 Very High Quality simply because it's a multiple of the CD format. In reality, I almost never play files so it doesn't matter to me.
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Post by Slinger on Nov 16, 2018 16:09:47 GMT
My understanding is that Volumio resampling is for files, not streams. I have mine set to 24/88.2 Very High Quality simply because it's a multiple of the CD format. In reality, I almost never play files so it doesn't matter to me. Ah, yes, I was forgetting we pretty much use Volumio for opposite purposes. I'm file-based and you're stream-based. |
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