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Post by Tim on Jul 4, 2020 15:22:12 GMT
Well I'm feeling rather chuffed with myself right now, the Samsung Netbook is only using 25W playing Volumio, so less than the Atom and I've put the Atom board I was using into use as a NAS, with openmediavault, which if you've not heard of it is open source NAS software.
Only a test setup for now, I'll put a 4TB drive in the NAS later, but right now I'm streaming files from the Atom NAS to the Netbook and the best bit is I haven't spent a single penny, just using parts I had lying around. Gave me something to do and it was fun setting it up.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 4, 2020 15:26:22 GMT
Great use for an old netbook, Tim.
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Post by Tim on Jul 4, 2020 15:36:15 GMT
I was going to either sell it (but to be honest who'd buy one), or freecycle it - I'm really glad I didn't now as this is a much better idea.
There is a bit of nostalgia at play too, as it was this very Netbook that I first used with Stan's Caiman DAC to play FLAC files. It was after taking them into a dealer and hooking it up to a rather expensive Bryston and PMC system, that I decided to go down the file route and sell my CDP. I think that post is still on AoS, as I was scratching my head trying to fathom out how good it sounded, as was the dealer, as it wasn't that common in those days.
So it's kind of heart warming to use it again - daft I know, but I can be a sentimental old sausage sometimes
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Post by Tim on Jul 9, 2020 20:31:45 GMT
I think I've found Volumio's weakness, large music libraries.
Up to now I'd only indexed a few hundred albums and mostly used it for Spotify, but now it's indexed all my music on the NAS (4,500 albums) and it's really not doing so well. Now it could be the limitations of my Netbook, so I'm going to try it on a 4 core 3.2GHz x86 machine with 16GB RAM and see how it gets on? If it can't cope I'll just use it as a DNLA renderer for JRiver and Spotify playback. I did expect it to do a little better, but we shall see what more powerful hardware produces, but that kind of defeats the object of my using is as a low powered music player.
Anyone else using it for large libraries?
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Post by Slinger on Jul 9, 2020 20:45:49 GMT
I've got two 2TB Synology NAS boxes, one for classical and one for non-classical. The non-classical is 63% full, and the classical drive is 34% full. Volumio tells me I've got 8,502 albums indexed in total with a total playtime of just over 44 weeks. I've had no problems, either with the ATB or the Cubi Mini-PC
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Post by Tim on Jul 9, 2020 21:18:00 GMT
Thanks Slinger, it would seem to be my Netbook not being up to the job then. I'll have a play with this jobby tomorrow, to see if I need a more powerful end point?
It's a bit like a PC repair shop here right now, third build in the last few weeks, but it keeps me out of trouble!
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Post by Slinger on Jul 9, 2020 21:22:34 GMT
My favourite type of jigsaw puzzle, Tim.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 10, 2020 14:35:30 GMT
It's almost finished.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 10, 2020 14:53:45 GMT
I'd need a lot of tuition to work out what goes where in Tim's pic The why I would probably not grasp !
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Post by Pinch on Jul 10, 2020 14:53:45 GMT
I think I've found Volumio's weakness, large music libraries. Up to now I'd only indexed a few hundred albums and mostly used it for Spotify, but now it's indexed all my music on the NAS (4,500 albums) and it's really not doing so well. Now it could be the limitations of my Netbook, so I'm going to try it on a 4 core 3.2GHz x86 machine with 16GB RAM and see how it gets on? If it can't cope I'll just use it as a DNLA renderer for JRiver and Spotify playback. I did expect it to do a little better, but we shall see what more powerful hardware produces, but that kind of defeats the object of my using is as a low powered music player. Anyone else using it for large libraries? I experimented with it a few years ago - so, not the most up to date version - and ultimately found it a bit unsatisfying with my pretty chunky library, so just stuck with the DLNA renderer option using JRiver and JRemote. These days I run an RPi4 as a headless JRiver server (running raspbian and JRiver for Linux), and an RPi-based streamer running Volumio - works well.
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Post by Tim on Jul 12, 2020 10:57:02 GMT
I experimented with it a few years ago - so, not the most up to date version - and ultimately found it a bit unsatisfying with my pretty chunky library, so just stuck with the DLNA renderer option using JRiver and JRemote. These days I run an RPi4 as a headless JRiver server (running raspbian and JRiver for Linux), and an RPi-based streamer running Volumio - works well. I think that will be where I stay for the time being Pinch, using DLNA with JRiver and JRemote - it's not happy with a large music library on it's own. It's a pain having to rescan if you add anything new too, JRiver just gets on with it and I still don't care for the very clunky Volumio GUI either, very 80s Nintendo - OK on a mobile device mind you, just the browser.
I am considering a Tinkerboard as it should give me the same results I'm getting now, it'd certainly reduce my power consumption and have a smaller footprint than a netbook. Can't complain about the Volumio sound quality, that's certainly very good.
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Post by Tim on Jul 14, 2020 9:01:32 GMT
I'd need a lot of tuition to work out what goes where in Tim's pic The why I would probably not grasp ! Lego for adults Mike It's actually a lot easier than you'd imagine, nigh on impossible to plug the wrong thing in these days, unless you force it. Building a PC is the easy part, getting Windows to do what you want takes more effort. My first build in the 90s was an i486 running at 25MHz and was a lot harder. In those days you could put things in the wrong way round and installing any sort of software could be a challenge. Looked a lot like this . . . I wonder if you could run Volumio on an old 486?
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Post by Slinger on Jul 14, 2020 9:35:35 GMT
The first PC I built was for a friend of a friend. He asked and like and idiot full of confidence I said yes. What he wasn't telling me was that he'd " had a go" himself before he asked me. Instead of the luxury of speccing and selecting components myself I was handed a carcass, and a box of bits. I had to break down what remained of his failed attempt, work out what he'd broken, and start again. Amazingly, it worked first time and certainly set me up for making my own machines in the future. As Tim says, it's pretty difficult to mess things up these days, and yet some people seem almost inspired to find a way.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 14, 2020 9:36:52 GMT
Complete units best for me. Done a bit of fiddling, usually with help If anything doesn't work right I'm stuck - onto Google and or YouTube Poka-yoke is good ! If hifi or similar then here
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 14, 2020 9:40:31 GMT
The first PC I built was for a friend of a friend. He asked and like and idiot full of confidence I said yes. What he wasn't telling me was that he'd " had a go" himself before he asked me. Instead of the luxury of speccing and selecting components myself I was handed a carcass, and a box of bits. I had to break down what remained of his failed attempt, work out what he'd broken, and start again. Amazingly, it worked first time and certainly set me up for making my own machines in the future. As Tim says, it's pretty difficult to mess things up these days, and yet some people seem almost inspired to find a way. I learned dBase II from a pile of sh1t that I had bought as a tailor made software package to run my business. Soooo much change and severe pruning of code and databases This was *not* the plan. A gentleman developer was er, developed So bad it wasn't even wrong
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Post by MartinT on Jul 14, 2020 14:50:21 GMT
My first build in the 90s was an i486 running at 25MHz and was a lot harder. Mine was similar, based on a discarded NEC chassis (I worked for them) with IDE disk controller, graphics card etc. I remember the excitement of installing the first beta of Windows 95. It was a new world!
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Post by Tim on Jul 14, 2020 16:49:08 GMT
I won a copy of Windows 95 at some computer show in London after a Microsoft presentation - I remember feeling particularly pleased with myself
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Post by MartinT on Jul 14, 2020 17:38:08 GMT
It was a little later that I attended a seminar with Bill Gates. He is a true luminary. This was before the dreaded Steve Ballmer years.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 14, 2020 19:23:16 GMT
Still remember the first time I saw Gates interviewed. Very special. Like a laser. No pauses or spoken pauses like erm and er
Never seen anyone like that before or since. In fact I think he has learned to be more normal now in interviews
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Post by MartinT on Jul 17, 2020 20:19:21 GMT
2.799 (16-07-2020)
NEW ADDITIONS 4.19.118 Kernel for Raspberry PI More options to visualize album and artist credits Simplify selection of i2s DACs over other audio outputs Show year of albums in REST APIs Show status on plugin installation from command line Added support for MERUS AMP Hat Better multimedia keys support
FIXES Fix retrieval of metadata for CD Ripping and Playback Improved back behaviour after search Allow volumio user to access GPIOs Avoid one click play of all NAS or USB Fix return to home when starting rip Fix back on home on CD Eject Allow Album card on CD Skip device availability check for I2S DACs Proper detection of PI4 Fixed removal of cloud playlists
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