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Post by Tim on Jul 15, 2014 21:32:00 GMT
What are people's views . . . . Well I tend to agree Marco, some folk seem to revel in confrontation, either passively or aggressively and others seem to view it as a sport! I was never cut out to be a mod and take my hat off to those that do it, I would probably want to ban most of a fecking internet forum after a few weeks (any forum that is, not being specific here). I'm not entirely convinced the  is a good idea, as if it were me I would see it as a challenge to see how far I could push it and I would definitely want to get it to 100%. In fact I would be disappointed if I didn't achieve it once it had started, so it would actually encourage me to misbehave - but I can be rather 'acerbic' at times especially when I'm right, which is most of the time  |
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Post by pre65 on Jul 15, 2014 21:35:51 GMT
Well, Richard seems to regard it as something good. 
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 15, 2014 21:38:59 GMT
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Post by hobnob on Jul 15, 2014 21:43:10 GMT
I also feel the orange bar could be a mistake. Not least because certain mischief makers seem to be seeing it as a "green light" to try and push it to 100%
The moderation thread should not just be about Mr Dunn but that is what I am seeing. I think that him being the only wearer of that badge may well contribute to this.
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Post by Marco on Jul 15, 2014 21:43:41 GMT
What are people's views . . . . Well I tend to agree Marco, some folk seem to revel in confrontation, either passively or aggressively and others seem to view it as a sport! I was never cut out to be a mod and take my hat off to those that do it, I would probably want to ban most of a fecking internet forum after a few weeks (any forum that is, not being specific here). I'm not entirely convinced the is a good idea, as if it were me I would see it as a challenge to see how far I could push it and I would definitely want to get it to 100%. In fact I would be disappointed if I didn't achieve it once it had started, so it would actually encourage me to misbehave - but I can be rather 'acerbic' at times especially when I'm right, which is most of the time Lol @ Timbo - I think if you'd given it a chance you could've become a master at it! What is utterly galling (and mildly amusing in a way) is he who is complaining most about being provoked is himself the master of provocation  The fact is, if he addressed people more civilly in the first place, then much of the conflict he subsequently creates (seemingly unwittingly), from their reaction to his abrasiveness, would be avoided. The problem is getting him to understand that most people, outside of his world, aren't used to being addressed in such a way as he considers to be accpetable, and so sometimes retaliate accordingly. Marco. |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 15, 2014 21:48:30 GMT
I also feel the orange bar could be a mistake. Not least because certain mischief makers seem to be seeing it as a "green light" to try and push it to 100% The moderation thread should not just be about Mr Dunn but that is what I am seeing. I think that him being the only wearer of that badge may well contribute to this. It is also about me because the Dunn dissers are arriving to try and push their agenda along. |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 15, 2014 21:57:05 GMT
Well I tend to agree Marco, some folk seem to revel in confrontation, either passively or aggressively and others seem to view it as a sport! I was never cut out to be a mod and take my hat off to those that do it, I would probably want to ban most of a fecking internet forum after a few weeks (any forum that is, not being specific here). I'm not entirely convinced the is a good idea, as if it were me I would see it as a challenge to see how far I could push it and I would definitely want to get it to 100%. In fact I would be disappointed if I didn't achieve it once it had started, so it would actually encourage me to misbehave - but I can be rather 'acerbic' at times especially when I'm right, which is most of the time Lol @ Timbo - I think if you'd given it a chance you could've become a master at it! What is utterly galling (and mildly amusing in a way) is he who is complaining most about being provoked is himself the master of provocation The fact is, if he addressed people more civilly in the first place, then much of the conflict he subsequently creates (seemingly unwittingly), from their reaction to his abrasiveness, would be avoided. The problem is getting him to understand that most people, outside of his world, aren't used to being addressed in such a way as he considers to be accpetable, and so sometimes retaliate accordingly. Marco. Marco this is nonsense do I really have to publish your private emails to me full of insult, threats, lies. With nothing of the ilk returned. MODERATION: further ad hominem removed. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:06:16 GMT
Because the people who have initiated conflict have got off scot free, the people who have been stalking me across the forum have got off scot free and the only person to be moderated to any extent has been me, and if you read HFS everyone there agrees with me about it, so it is not my delusion. But do you always respond in such an aggressive manner? Are you like this in person (serious question because I don't know you)? Can you never see that sometimes you could 'let it ride' and instead of fireworks you'd get . . . nothing? I can see (I'm not blind) that you have been provoked on occasion, but your response always seems massively retaliatory and out of proportion. As for HFS, what is said elsewhere isn't really our concern but neither will we hold it against you. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:09:18 GMT
Have you given up your ego as well, isn't Jerry still leader of his little pack telling people what to like and they follow like sheep. I have seen no evidence of Jerry behaving that way. |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 15, 2014 22:10:24 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:11:25 GMT
If there is conflict, a calming is what is required, this can be difficult without making one (or more) party feel 'told off'. Very good point. I often find myself not taking sides but just wishing I could douse the flames. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:12:28 GMT
TBH I think the showing of the warning bar smacks heavily of name and shame. Name and shame is the worst form of negativity smacks of blame culture and bullying. Noted - thanks. |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 15, 2014 22:13:08 GMT
Because the people who have initiated conflict have got off scot free, the people who have been stalking me across the forum have got off scot free and the only person to be moderated to any extent has been me, and if you read HFS everyone there agrees with me about it, so it is not my delusion. But do you always respond in such an aggressive manner? Are you like this in person (serious question because I don't know you)? Can you never see that sometimes you could 'let it ride' and instead of fireworks you'd get . . . nothing? I can see (I'm not blind) that you have been provoked on occasion, but your response always seems massively retaliatory and out of proportion. As for HFS, what is said elsewhere isn't really our concern but neither will we hold it against you. Well then that is largely the problem, I see my reaction as like for like, perhaps I am just better at it. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:13:22 GMT
It's surprising how many people react in a more reasonable manner when there's not an audience. Noted and your forum experience is appreciated, thanks. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:15:42 GMT
Folks, how much longer is this guy going to be allowed to use TAS to attack AoS (and me), and fan the flames of disputes from elsewhere?  We're letting it run in the hope that, when everyone has it off their chests, we'll get some good input from it. However, we're on a fine line here and I won't let this become a personal slug-fest. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:17:13 GMT
I think the orange bar doodad is not a good idea. Again noted - thanks. |
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Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew on Jul 15, 2014 22:17:55 GMT
Have you given up your ego as well, isn't Jerry still leader of his little pack telling people what to like and they follow like sheep. I have seen no evidence of Jerry behaving that way. Well we will have to agree to differ, for me it is written all over his posts. You are a classic example of the difference, you don't do it. I think you have acquired one sheep but not from trying. I could say many agree with me as it is far from me who talks about it, but I am sure loads would say they haven't seen it, so little point. As with all things I am giving opinion not stating fact. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:18:09 GMT
I'm not entirely convinced the is a good idea, as if it were me I would see it as a challenge to see how far I could push it and I would definitely want to get it to 100%. And again noted - thanks. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:19:47 GMT
I also feel the orange bar could be a mistake. Not least because certain mischief makers seem to be seeing it as a "green light" to try and push it to 100% And again, I think we're seeing a pattern here - thanks. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2014 22:23:22 GMT
It is also about me because the Dunn dissers are arriving to try and push their agenda along. Paranoia seems to be a part of all your responses, Richard. What I see are members responding to your posts, not arriving here with any agenda. Most of the complaints to us have been about specific posts you have made. |
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