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Post by user211 on Sept 23, 2020 14:18:13 GMT
They are good. The previous equivalent Bose model is too and a smidge more comfortable.
The ANR on the Sony's is excellent, not that I suspect you really need it. The Sony Android app is excellent, the Bose is NOT.
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Post by user211 on Sept 23, 2020 14:20:35 GMT
Actually I will buy the Bose again as I lost my pair. Bose. How uncool is that?  Maybe uncool is the new cool. |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 23, 2020 14:34:07 GMT
No, I don't need noise cancellation. My wife probably does, but I don't.  |
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Post by wannarock2 on Sept 23, 2020 15:40:29 GMT
Hi jandl100, any feedback on the SMSL M200 DAC?
SMSL is in the process of releasing a new DAC the SMSL SU-9 on September 30, 2020.
A ES9038Pro based unit which again appears to have excellent specs.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 23, 2020 16:28:47 GMT
It's up for sale on ebay! I don't get excited about every new highest tech DAC anymore - I've found that I much prefer old fashioned digital technology. |
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Post by user211 on Sept 23, 2020 17:12:28 GMT
BTW IMHO you have to use a lot of Sony app EQ with the Sony phones, otherwise they will sound dreadful. Way too bass heavy. If you're not happy with that don't buy them!
Just warning you.
I can show you what I use if you do go for it.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 23, 2020 17:22:23 GMT
Interesting.
Some rather ancient High end (£200 20 years ago) Sony cans I recently played with were too bright by a hefty margin.
But I guess bass sells these days.
No I don't want a bass heavy headphone, I've got a 10 band equaliser on my phone, but I can get a bit obsessed fiddling around with it! - thanks for the warning.
A recent pair of Shure 1840, very highly rated for some reason, were painfully bright to me. I could just about equalise them, but I was never happy with that approach.
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Post by user211 on Sept 23, 2020 18:54:52 GMT
The EQ is set and forget. Literally. The settings are stored in the headphones which is very clever.
So if you Bluetooth connect from your laptop it uses the headphone stored settings.
Somehow even large amounts of EQ still result in a very listenable headphone.
Apogees they ain't so listening via Bluetooth with them is fine.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 23, 2020 20:45:24 GMT
I don't get excited about every new highest tech DAC anymore - I've found that I much prefer old fashioned digital technology. I find this a curious concept to get my head round but it's a long time since I've heard an old DAC. In fact I've only had one - a matching TEAC DAC to go with one of the old VRDS cdp's. It didn't fill me with joy. Is your Rega DAC the original or most recent? |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2020 3:05:23 GMT
I've had a TEAC DAC, it didn't fill me with joy, either. It was very boring. The Rega (old enough to have a cloverleaf mains input socket, so quite an early one) is in an entirely different and superior league. Its standout points, which separate it from the modern technically transparent DACs I have tried as well as the lethargic TEAC to my ears, include a vibrancy and presence which make the music come alive. I hear the same kind of thing in my vintage (20yo) Lexicon digital processors, although probably to a lesser extent (I need to go back to one sometime soon to compare). You can keep 115dB transparency and ultra-low distortion, to my ears atm they don't provide a gateway to the music.  YMMV and it may well do, I can only speak to my own experiences and preferences, as ever. The Topping D70 is now sold (again) and the SMSL M200 has a bid on ebay, so that'll be gone by next week. I don't anticipate trying a modern DAC again for quite a while. In fact I rather fancy the idea of trying some more oldies. |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2020 3:35:57 GMT
... It's just a technically ignorant speculation, but the differences I hear and enjoy seem to relate to what I might expect from output stage power supply issues as well as, or as opposed to, the digital technology used.
I've no idea, really, it seems unlikely that the modern wonderDACs are deficient in the power supply department.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 24, 2020 5:24:30 GMT
DACs are so dependent on good power supplies. It's the difference between transparent-but-relentless and a truly musically communicating sound. If you can get that with the transparency, detail and clout then you are winning.
I actually like the ES9038 chipset, but it does need superb power arrangements to give of its best. Too many DACs using them sound bright and relentless and I now know it's down to circuit design, not the chipset.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2020 6:39:03 GMT
I've just been doing the washing up and giving the bathroom a quick clean wearing the B&O H7. This is a good thing! |
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Post by brian2957 on Sept 24, 2020 10:32:09 GMT
I've just been doing the washing up and giving the bathroom a quick clean wearing the B&O H7. This is a good thing! Haha...I haven't done that yet . I tend to settle down with mine for a listen ( without the 4m extension cable on my wired ones straddling the room lol ) On the subject of DACs I must admit that I prefer my old USB powered HRT music streamer to the other more modern DACs I own using a decent linear PSU . You'll be buying a turntable next Jerry |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2020 12:23:25 GMT
A turntable? I wouldn't bet your pension on it if I were you, Brian. |
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 24, 2020 15:08:55 GMT
I'll keep in mind to try the Rega in the future, must be in a different class to the TEAC.
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Post by Slinger on Sept 24, 2020 15:44:24 GMT
I rather like my nine-year-old TEAC UD-H01 DAC. I've always thought how transparent it is.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 24, 2020 16:11:43 GMT
Mine was the much older D-T1. Of course it would sound completely different in my current system. Build quality was great but never got on with the sound of these two.  |
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Post by user211 on Sept 24, 2020 19:43:03 GMT
I've just been doing the washing up and giving the bathroom a quick clean wearing the B&O H7. This is a good thing! Eureka! BTW if you ever travel again i.e. on public transport or by air, ambient noise rejection is a seriously good thing. A million years of Covid may stop that, though! When I flew to Rio the Sony's made the long flight very tolerable. |
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2020 20:09:37 GMT
No, I'd stopped going abroad years before COVID came along. I'd be fairly surprised if I ever got on an aeroplane again, even though I used to love flying. I've travelled a fair bit over the years, but the wanderlust seems to have wandered off now! That's why we bought a 2nd home, in the Welsh Hills, to give us a change of environment now and then. And also to stop me getting itchy feet about moving home, I used to want to move every 2 or 3 years, and it drove the Mrs a bit potty. Having 2 places in the UK has sorted that. It's also a nice excuse to have 2 hifi systems. |
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