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Post by ChrisB on Aug 3, 2017 6:41:13 GMT
Which mains filter are you using?
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Post by John on Aug 3, 2017 7:03:28 GMT
Same one Mike using as did not want to take big risk
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 3, 2017 15:17:04 GMT
I use a few. The Tacima ?
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Post by John on Aug 3, 2017 16:16:29 GMT
Yes that's the one
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 3, 2017 16:28:35 GMT
Bonkers value for money
Thanks to MartinT for making me aware of it
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Post by John on Aug 21, 2017 9:40:35 GMT
I had a friend come round who has a good ears for system building but his comments made me reflect a lot
He used to love my system when I had the Hawthornes in many ways he saw that as a reference point but as I upgraded my system each time he heard it he has disliked it more.
My system throws music at you from everywhere because of that it does not do pin point imagining it's more of a wall of sound capable of being brutal and scary
I think we just both have different musical values and think my system now is far removed from any audiophile system I heard I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing what is good is how much music I listen too
So more than ever I am on a road less taken
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Post by Clive on Aug 21, 2017 11:37:43 GMT
I had a friend come round who has a good ears for system building but his comments made me reflect a lot He used to love my system when I had the Hawthornes in many ways he saw that as a reference point but as I upgraded my system each time he heard it he has disliked it more. My system throws music at you from everywhere because of that it does not do pin point imagining it's more of a wall of sound capable of being brutal and scary I think we just both have different musical values and think my system now is far removed from any audiophile system I heard I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing what is good is how much music I listen too So more than ever I am on a road less taken Hi John, if I were to vastly generalise I'd say what you have is closer to a more typical American setup (yes I realsise the Hawthornes were American....). What I mean is that the US more typically want wall of sound with large images, possibly oversized images vs the stereotypical UK standmount speaker pin point imaging of the 80s (probably less true today). I'm with you (if I read you correctly) in that I want to be immersed in the sound, almost as though I have a massive pair on headphones on or just in front of me. This way I feel I'm listening to something close to live music vs playing recorded music. Maybe I'm off-beam and you see it differently. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 21, 2017 11:40:14 GMT
It's good that you are taking your own path, John. If it makes you happy and you play more music on it, then no-one can tell you you're doing it wrong.
Systems are all about personal preference and even our attempts to link them to live sound depend on which concerts we like and in which venues. If I listen to the LPO at the Festival Hall and compare with the LSO at the Barbican, they sound different. Which is the true sound?
I honestly have no idea what you'll make of my system now in its new room, but it does do some of the things you like so we'll see.
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Post by John on Aug 21, 2017 13:40:05 GMT
Clive
I never heard an American high end system
Yes more where you more have the music close to you for me this is an immersive experience more skin to live music rather than the studio
Martin really looking forward too hearing your system in the new room
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 21, 2017 20:17:42 GMT
This is what I heard at The ASBO, John.
Do you remember with your system in that little room, I said that, despite the problems with the bass, I heard something special?
The speakers did that disappearing trick and, eyes shut, it wasn't easy to locate their positions and there was a great soundstage.
Then, you were moving the speakers around the room, trying to get rid of the nasty bass effect and you put them absolutely everywhere from right back near the rear wall to the centre of the space, close together and far apart. According to location, the sound changed as you would expect but I still couldn't tell where they were, no matter where you put them.
A big soundstage is important to me and it's probably what my system does best - especially with the Gyrodec playing. The Audio Research preamp, Levinson power amps and bipolar Mirage speakers all work together to help deliver that.
At the end, when we got your speakers going in the big room, the wall of sound was there again. I liked it!
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Post by John on Aug 22, 2017 4:50:01 GMT
I still think in the big room it was missing some of the openness and dynamics I am used too. My bass can really hit you in the gut at times. But understand why not everyone will like this, the way we like hearing music is a deeply personal thing. The sound I get is very much due to the PRV drivers in open space. I think ideally if I had a bit more space that would be a good thing.
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Post by Clive on Aug 22, 2017 8:07:36 GMT
I still think in the big room it was missing some of the openness and dynamics I am used too. My bass can really hit you in the gut at times. But understand why not everyone will like this, the way we like hearing music is a deeply personal thing. The sound I get is very much due to the PRV drivers in open space. I think ideally if I had a bit more space that would be a good thing. How big was the room? The dual bass drivers run baffleless work fantastically in normal sized UK rooms but in large room it becomes a challenge and unless you have massive power I'd expect bass to suffer - this may make the whole frequency spectrum sound undynamic. With my similar bass drivers I'm running the iNuke very hard so around 800W. A much larger room might need....purely guessing here....5,000W? That's not to say a slightly larger room than you have now wouldn't be a good thing, I expect it would be but we all have to live within the constraints we have. My issue is a low ceiling. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 22, 2017 9:38:20 GMT
It was a very large room, Clive, far bigger than any UK sitting room.
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Post by John on Nov 12, 2017 6:58:50 GMT
A few system changes to update
Using the Caiman SEQ via battery. The reclocking is very good
At present I have 3 digital sources I would like to streamline at some point
a) The DigiOne pi I use for Spotify Not able to access my files from my pc but love what it does with Spotify. At present my main source but a bit frustrated around not being able to get it to set up with file playing
b) The SOTM 200 great sounding with files but not sure how to set up squeezelite in order to play Spotify. Looks complex set up. Roon may introduce Spotify so that be a easier way to link
c) Does everything really well with the added bonus of sounding good with YouTube but the pi better with Spotify and the SOtM better with files. But not a huge difference
What is great is that I can now enjoy the more complex heavier stuff which makes up about 50% of my listening via Spotify as now have the impact I enjoy
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Post by Clive on Nov 12, 2017 8:34:30 GMT
John, have you got a backup of your music files? Hopefully you have. I have 3 backup copies of mine one of which is on a usb drive which I use with the Pi. If you don't have a backup then you need one and getting a usb drive would fix your Pi files problem.
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Post by John on Nov 12, 2017 9:22:29 GMT
I have 3 back ups Clive for my files
From the pi for whatever reason I just do not get good sounds from the USB port using a memory stick s in Martin's system it sounded fine in mine I cannot listen without getting listening fatigue
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Post by Clive on Nov 12, 2017 9:47:57 GMT
Maybe it's the memory stick. Have you tried a usb disk drive?
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Post by John on Nov 12, 2017 10:39:37 GMT
It's the same stick I used at Martins
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Post by Clive on Nov 12, 2017 11:02:25 GMT
There's something odd going on then for sure.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 12, 2017 14:46:01 GMT
John, have you tried going to My Library, then rescanning the USB for files? They should then appear when you switch to Browse.
Have the USB plugged in before powering up the Pi.
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