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Post by DaveC on Feb 1, 2018 7:47:05 GMT
The AG1500 I had was OK on it's output as designed, but and this is a very big but : it put hash back into the mains all around it. As usual YMMV
Dave
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Post by brian2957 on Feb 1, 2018 7:59:16 GMT
I've been reading this thread , and others elsewhere , with interest over the last few weeks . Last year I bought several mains cables from David at MCRU and all have made a big difference to the SQ of my system , so I know that they work .The other day I spotted a guy on Ebay selling some SR Black fuses second hand at a very good price . So I decided to dip my toe in the water . I placed the fuse into the plug which feeds my mains block , and hence the rest of my system . I was literally gobsmacked at not only the improvements in SQ of my system , the picture of my TV ( which is plugged into the same mains block ) has also improved markedly . The improvement was such that I decided to buy another for my amp . Again another jump in SQ when this was put in place . Like Martin , I'm not going to risk invalidating my house insurance by bridging out plug fuses so this is the next best alternative . I don't know how these things work but they do , and IMO they have provided fundamental changes in the SQ of my system and also my enjoyment of music . I will probably upgrade to the SR Blue fuses when funds become available .
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Post by zippy on Feb 1, 2018 9:12:02 GMT
The AG1500 I had was OK on it's output as designed, but and this is a very big but : it put hash back into the mains all around it. As usual YMMV Dave Dave - how did you know that it was putting hash back ? I'd like to check my own AG1500 although I hear no obvious sign of this. If this is so I have the thought that my power amp (plugged into mains NOT regen as recommended by most) would be picking up this hash.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Feb 1, 2018 9:24:58 GMT
I had high hopes for the AG1500 when I auditioned it, it was OK but nothing special IMO. It does the job for sensible money. Did you try it with an audiophile fuse fitted? Of course I did, its not a proper regenerator, it sells well because we all like a bargain and it appears to be one but as I said earlier its ok but nothing special.
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Post by DaveC on Feb 1, 2018 9:44:35 GMT
The AG1500 I had was OK on it's output as designed, but and this is a very big but : it put hash back into the mains all around it. As usual YMMV Dave Dave - how did you know that it was putting hash back ? I'd like to check my own AG1500 although I hear no obvious sign of this. If this is so I have the thought that my power amp (plugged into mains NOT regen as recommended by most) would be picking up this hash. I used a proper (very expensive) wide-band current probe and I could see it. I could also hear it using low-output moving coil cartridges. I doubt a power amplifier would worry ! But any low level noise is not good, even if you can't hear it. As I said, YMMV .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 10:32:20 GMT
My AG1500 runs the entire system, so I am not worried if it puts noise back into the mains. It blocks the DC out, which was the main(s) problem along with high peak voltages from time to time.
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Post by AlanS on Feb 1, 2018 12:42:42 GMT
Dave - how did you know that it was putting hash back ? I'd like to check my own AG1500 although I hear no obvious sign of this. If this is so I have the thought that my power amp (plugged into mains NOT regen as recommended by most) would be picking up this hash. I used a proper (very expensive) wide-band current probe and I could see it. I could also hear it using low-output moving coil cartridges. I doubt a power amplifier would worry ! But any low level noise is not good, even if you can't hear it. As I said, YMMV . What pray do you regard as improper about an AG1500?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 13:27:19 GMT
Alan
Although I find no common ground with DaveC (hell usually freezes over before I concur)I would not use the word in-proper, as it performs the task it describes in its product manual without question. Personally I just do not feel they do as well as some others products coasting similar.
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 1, 2018 14:17:06 GMT
It does the job for sensible money. Did you try it with an audiophile fuse fitted? Of course I did, its not a proper regenerator. Upon which aspect of its technical operation do you base your assertion ?
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Post by The Brookmeister on Feb 1, 2018 16:06:20 GMT
Of course I did, its not a proper regenerator. Upon which aspect of its technical operation do you base your assertion ? Sorry Moonie I just CBA entering into a debate about that AG whatever its called, too busy packing fuses up to send out, sorry.
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Post by DaveC on Feb 1, 2018 16:14:19 GMT
I used a proper (very expensive) wide-band current probe and I could see it. I could also hear it using low-output moving coil cartridges. I doubt a power amplifier would worry ! But any low level noise is not good, even if you can't hear it. As I said, YMMV . What pray do you regard as improper about an AG1500? Please read carefully what I said and don’t confuse the two Daves !
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Post by DaveC on Feb 1, 2018 16:18:03 GMT
Alan Although I find no common ground with DaveC (hell usually freezes over before I concur)I would not use the word in-proper, as it performs the task it describes in its product manual without question. Personally I just do not feel they do as well as some others products coasting similar. Again please read my post carefully. Too many people wanting to have a pop fall into the hole of not bothering to read what I say. Is it any wonder I stay away from forums ?
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 1, 2018 17:13:15 GMT
But you can make time to denigrate a competitors product without backing up the validity of your statment.
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Post by DaveC on Feb 1, 2018 18:29:54 GMT
But you can make time to denigrate a competitors product without backing up the validity of your statment. I did but like the others you failed to read it. Still waiting for two apologies above !
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Post by AlanS on Feb 1, 2018 18:34:30 GMT
Alan Although I find no common ground with DaveC (hell usually freezes over before I concur)I would not use the word in-proper, as it performs the task it describes in its product manual without question. Personally I just do not feel they do as well as some others products coasting similar. Again please read my post carefully. Too many people wanting to have a pop fall into the hole of not bothering to read what I say. Is it any wonder I stay away from forums ? Apologies DaveC for the incorrect identification, and any flow of posts arising, To whoever said an AG1500 was not a proper regenerator - what was improper about it to. You I have one but not suffer from the mains miseries some do and could live without it. It creates a consistent sound regardless of when. I had no expectations of it, just curiosity as to what it might do.
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 1, 2018 19:48:39 GMT
But you can make time to denigrate a competitors product without backing up the validity of your statment. I did but like the others you failed to read it. Still waiting for two apologies above ! Dear God, Heed your own advice, Look at my posts, I am directing my questions and dialogue at a different buffoon entirely. Ergo, no apology required.
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 1, 2018 20:12:44 GMT
Call fellow members buffoons here and apologies are required. Please stop.
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 1, 2018 21:22:33 GMT
Well Chris, Rather than step in with your admin hat on to deal with a point entirely the fault of another somewhat 'precious ' member who is incapable of following his own advice perhaps your time would be better spent considering the implications of allowing to stand public defamation of a manufacturer on your forum, merely a suggestion.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 1, 2018 22:32:09 GMT
public defamation of a manufacturer on your forum Could you expand on that please? Forums are full of opinions and we're not about to stop people doing that. Was there actual defamation somewhere here?
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 1, 2018 22:35:48 GMT
The 'fault' lies entirely with the person who chooses to break a forum rule.
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