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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 12:55:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 12:58:34 GMT
Mercedes definitely know what they are doing in the engine department!
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 13, 2017 17:25:46 GMT
Montreal was great. It's a beautiful part of the city. It was over 20 years ago! My how time flies.
Interesting about the thermal efficiency.
I wonder how much more car manufacturers are going to spend developing internal combustion engines for the mass market and where that will leave F1..
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 17:40:37 GMT
I think Light Hybrids will be around for some time, with very high efficiency engines supplemented by batteries (like my CR-Z). Although the government were not very clear, they will be allowed post-2040 as well as pure electric cars. They are the closest relative to F1 engines with KERS.
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 13, 2017 17:53:59 GMT
I think Light Hybrids will be around for some time, with very high efficiency engines supplemented by batteries (like my CR-Z). Although the government were not very clear, they will be allowed post-2040 as well as pure electric cars. They are the closest relative to F1 engines with KERS. Much will happen over the years to come. Governments will come and go, so may their policies. I guess their first priority is to get the diesels off the roads in the volumes that's causing public health risk. After that all is up for revision and what suits. What you describe sounds interesting Martin. How is Formula E going down? I watch it but find the circuits dire!
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 19:06:49 GMT
It's an interesting formula but I agree about the circuits. It would be interesting to see them on a full open track but the problem is they would look quite slow. Improving every year, though.
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 13, 2017 23:36:28 GMT
It's an interesting formula but I agree about the circuits. It would be interesting to see them on a full open track but the problem is they would look quite slow. Improving every year, though. They'd just need to let go of some of the regs designed to slow the current cars down and see how fast elec could be then. Ground effect, fans, dual chassis, intelligent wings. Someone like Colin Chapman is what's needed Added, there just isn't the money for that sort of thing in Formula E, but there is in F1.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 16, 2017 14:17:52 GMT
Now Mercedes have a challenge, with both Ferraris and Red Bulls qualified in front of them. Singapore really isn't their track!
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 17, 2017 16:33:09 GMT
Interesting start. Ferrari mayhem!
Nice drive by Lewis. Merc found pace over Danny's promising pre race Redbull every safety car restart!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 16:50:41 GMT
Very nice job by Lewis after a poor result from Ferrari, hopefully he heads towards a 4th title now
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Post by ant on Sept 17, 2017 17:32:25 GMT
Im not sure what seb was doing to be honest. The way he shot across to cut max off was far too agressive in my view. He also opened the door for riccardio, Hamilton and alonso, and max had nowhere to go with kimi right alongside him. That tiny move to the left for max to avoid vettel as kimi was coming across from the right was all he could do, and bang...... World title race veers the other way. Didnt look like max had kept his foot in either he seemed to back off to try and escape as kimi shot forward, and his rear tyre smacked verstappens front. What a complete balls up for ferrari. Imo seb really needs to rein himself in. I didnt expect Hamilton to bugger off up the road though, the merc quite frankly, looked crap all way through practice and qualifying. An odd race, with large implications for vettels title hopes. Hopefully he can pull his head out of his arse, this years title race is alot better than last years. Its actually being decided by racing rather than reliability
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Post by MartinT on Sept 17, 2017 17:59:41 GMT
I'm surprised that the stewards are taking no further action. How Ferrari could blame Verstappen for it I do not know.
Hamilton made his own luck and drove a superb race, despite multiple restarts where he had to build up the lead all over again.
Oh, and kudos to Sainz for a very fine 4th place.
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Post by ant on Sept 17, 2017 18:41:40 GMT
Yep, again he was untouchable at the front, even while fighting with a car that couldn't deliver 24 hours before. How he managed to pedal it faster than riccardio who was on an absolute flier I dont know. I dont think he knows either..... The merc advantage in sheer poke was cancelled out here, but he still managed to, and every time riccardio raised his game Hamilton raised his higher. Someone give riccardio a pokier car......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 19:43:02 GMT
IMHO Lewis showed us a master class today, he took the gift at the beginning of the race and just went with it, good on him, the guy is really showing his abilities more than ever this year.
I agree with you about Vettel, Ant, he needs to calm down a bit, he thinks he is unbeatable, and that is dangerous, as Lewis found out last year!
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Post by steveeb on Sept 18, 2017 10:11:10 GMT
In the post race interview Christian Horner stated they were dealing with an issue on Ricciardo's car and expected to retire him after a few laps. He was amazed that he managed to nurse it home for the next hour and a half.
Max definately hit Kimi's rear wheel as the first contact and Kimi did not deviate his line, but it seemed purely a reflex to Seb cutting across, he'd already backed off trying to avoid the collision. Viewed onboard from Max's car it looked pretty vicious. Seb apologised from the beginning, it looked like a desperate, panicked move to block the Red Bull - but then Ferrari issued that tweet. A case of 'Thou dost protest too much'. Don't think they impressed anyone with that response.
There are just getting to be too many moves from too many drivers that don't show respect for open wheel racing of delicate cars. And a driver of Seb's status and experience should be leading the example.
A lovely comment from Ricciardo when asked why he's always so happy. He said that racing a Formula 1 car was his dream and he's doing it, so even on the worst race day it's still a great day in the office. "If I'm not happy now, then I'll never be happy!". That's more like it.
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Post by stanleyb on Sept 18, 2017 11:48:50 GMT
I am surprised that so many of you are surprised that Lewis won. Who is the greatest driver in the rain?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 12:44:04 GMT
I wasn't surprised, as soon as I saw it was raining I thought Lewis had a chance at the win, the thing that made it all so much sweeter was when Vettel took himself, Max and Raikkonen out of the race too
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 18, 2017 16:18:33 GMT
I'm surprised that the stewards are taking no further action. How Ferrari could blame Verstappen for it I do not know. Hamilton made his own luck and drove a superb race, despite multiple restarts where he had to build up the lead all over again. Oh, and kudos to Sainz for a very fine 4th place. There a three letters in FIA, and they are all in FerrAI did Murray Walker coin that one?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 9:55:58 GMT
Ferarri International Assistance
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Post by stanleyb on Sept 19, 2017 11:45:18 GMT
That accident at the front could well have been the fault of lewis. He has often been very close to Vettel whenever Vettel pulled that stunt. So maybe Lewis brings the worst out of German drivers.
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