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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2019 13:07:14 GMT
I would categorise Nige in the same group as Bell, Paul. He's not really my thing and also has a false persona which you can see by watching videos of when he was young. And yes, I have seen him live.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 24, 2019 13:20:39 GMT
Kennedy's "persona" annoyed the Hell out of me, but the boy had talent. Probably no more talent than a dozen other violinists who were around at the time, but his "gimmick" moved him to the head of the queue. He had to be able to back the hype up with actual playing though. I don't know much about Bell as a person, but I've heard some of his albums and they're not too shabby, at least, not to my ears.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 24, 2019 13:30:46 GMT
I think Nigel is a more sincere performer and whilst I don't enjoy his style of playing I would choose him over Bell any day of the week.
Bell is simply not a world class violinist, end of. I could name scores of more talented players, both female and male, with better technical and emotional content.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 24, 2019 16:59:06 GMT
Joshua Bell rubbish? Hah, wrong again, Jules.  Here he is with the very talented Yuja Wang  in Beethoven's Kreutzer violin sonata. (as recently featured in the classical blog thread). And very very good they both are! |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 24, 2019 17:33:37 GMT
Hmm I don't remember saying he is 'rubbish' - you can only get so far with haircuts alone ... 😀 That Beethoven works well enough but for the big concertos I don't think he is anywhere near the top of the class. Ms Wang much improved in a supporting role where she can't hammer the piano to death LOL.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 24, 2019 17:44:01 GMT
The Kreutzer sonata is as big as any concerto.  |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 24, 2019 17:59:39 GMT
Now here's a pairing - Kremer and Argerich. I will find time to listen to the whole work but from what I have heard is more to my personal taste.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 24, 2019 20:09:32 GMT
Whew! - Argerich is good! (But so is Wang).
Kremer is rather struggling to keep up at times.
Bell wins on this occasion imo.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 25, 2019 11:57:29 GMT
I know where Jerry is getting his next set of luggage from ... 😁
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Post by Slinger on Jul 25, 2019 14:39:21 GMT
How about this? It's interesting to contrast the styles on the rare occasion when you can actually see all four hands.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 25, 2019 17:28:07 GMT
Absolutely stunning.
Khatia B carves out those melodies like cascading waterfalls, just gorgeous.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 26, 2019 6:34:49 GMT
Absolutely stunning. Khatia B carves out those melodies like cascading waterfalls, just gorgeous. the man's obsessed! - they both played well. KB did better in the 'making silly faces' contest, though. ---- KB is withoubt any doubt a great pianist - she just doesn't really 'do' the repertoire that matters most to me and when she tries (e.g. Schubert D960 sonata) she rather shows that her talents do indeed lie elsewhere, so I can't fault her overall judgement in choice of repertoire! |
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 26, 2019 6:59:04 GMT
R.I.P ANNER BYLSMA (Dutch classical cellist; 17 February 1934 – 25 July 2019)
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 26, 2019 10:23:36 GMT
That's sad - he was a very important cellist.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 26, 2019 12:15:12 GMT
I've got Bylsma's Bach Cello Suites. I shall play it later today. R.I.P. Anner Bylsma
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Post by Slinger on Jul 26, 2019 12:25:54 GMT
... KB did better in the 'making silly faces' contest, though. It's also great fun watching her and wondering exactly how her boobs stay inside those dresses, Jerry, especially when she goes all animato on the keyboard. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 26, 2019 12:27:31 GMT
Khatia B carves out those melodies like cascading waterfalls, just gorgeous. I don't see how you can differentiate? Two pianists at the top of their game working well together. |
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 26, 2019 13:07:53 GMT
Khatia B carves out those melodies like cascading waterfalls, just gorgeous. I don't see how you can differentiate? Two pianists at the top of their game working well together. Jules is obsessed, I tell you! I think it's those bouncing boobies that do it. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 26, 2019 15:01:00 GMT
LOL.
I'm not obsessed (much) but I do think Khatia B is possibly the most expressive and naturally gifted performer of her generation.
As for differentiating the two players in the Brahms clip it's very easy - Ms B is playing the sublime upper register melodies which is where you get to shine in this duet!
But I suspect that's not what Martin is getting at. 😁 In their solo work both pianists display a chalk and cheese difference in approach to making music. Both are technically beyond reproach, but their styles of musicality are poles apart and that boils down to your personal preferences at the end of the day. I've stated why I prefer KB's style previously so won't bother repeating myself here. I thank you gentlemen.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 29, 2019 11:12:35 GMT
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in Beethoven's Kreutzer violin sonata. (as recently featured in the classical blog thread).