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Post by rfan8312 on May 16, 2021 16:30:12 GMT
Would it be fair to say that any biological matter within a craft that can do 600 g-force would be turned to paste?
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Post by Slinger on May 16, 2021 16:30:56 GMT
Who would you suggest as a more reliable source than a retired US Navy Lieutenant, Martin? Short of a little green man (Yes, alright, I know they're actually grey) what sort of person would persuade you to take these accounts seriously?
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2021 16:41:36 GMT
No, I was referring to the Mail.
I'm not going to quibble with a US Navy Lieutenant, but I'm going to need more evidence than anyone's word for it. There are too many ways to fool the brain with illusions.
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Post by rfan8312 on May 16, 2021 18:18:04 GMT
I read this report during the week, and it's probably (imho) the best evidence to surface for a long, long, time. " Imagine a technology that can do 600 to 700 G-Forces, that can fly at 13,000 mph, that can evade radar and fly through air and water and possibly space. " And, oh, by the way, has no visible signs of propulsion, no wings, no controk surfaces, and yet can still defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing." Luia Elizondo (Former Defense Department official). I have the feeling Paul that you could shed light for me on something I've wondered about for most of my life. In this day and age can anything that our eyeballs are exposed to through media be trusted? Weather, sports, events that we can either later confirm in person or with people who were there are one thing. But when it comes to footage that came from who knows where, can it be trusted? My take is that the Navy officer telling this story wouldn't want to tarnish his own word and embarrass his family and friends with outlandish claims that the whole world will see. Which has me believing him. But if he didn't care about any of that then his words and some fancy graphics together could be combined to create a very powerful illusion and compelling story that could influence a lot of people's views. I guess what I'm asking is it worth to believe something from which a lot could be gained by somebody if they're using this as a hoax? |
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Post by Slinger on May 16, 2021 18:27:43 GMT
I think the fact that although this seems to come from the Navy Lieutenant as a single source he constantly refers to others who were with him seeing exactly the same things. If he were lying I'd imagine either the people concerned would be saying "Hang on, I was with him that day, and nothing happened," or the US Navy would be issuing blanket denials on the strength of it being only a single source.
Obviously we can't *know* but I think his report adds yet more credence to the idea that there are things flying around in our airspace we know nothing about and cannot understand. It's another brick in the wall, if you will, for people, like me, who really hope they are real.
The problem (well, one of them, anyway) is that with all of our modern technology nobody has ever taken a decent photo of one. That would be my next "brick," I think.
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 16, 2021 18:38:54 GMT
Honestly... The "phenomena" has/is being seen widespread. It's not just a single individual. And footage released was taken by US Navy Pilots. Oh, and 600+ Gs isn't a problem when you have your own gravitational field.
Look on you tube, Martin. You'll find the man himself (Mr E), stating that there's loads more to come out. Whether it will next month is another matter.
I'll go back to sleep now. It's all I do these days.
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Post by rfan8312 on May 16, 2021 18:38:59 GMT
PaulDamn, yes I agree. I've thought about it with ghosts tbh. With youtube around and every pocket has a camera in it now, we should be seeing more than grainy video shown by some popular content maker on YouTube. What I find fascinating though is that if this is true it seems to me to have just been another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience. Just another 1 of the 100 stories we're exposed to every day I would have thought that something like this would create waves. But there's so much damn content and media in the world now that even something like this just gets lost in the shuffle. Not one person I've spoken to in the world has brought it up, it's just something I've seen discussed online. @mr. Whippy Yes absolutely lol in fact nothing is a problem when you have your own anti gravity field iirc. 600 G's is like zero G's because you are temporarily untethered from any physical limitations caused by your environment including inertia.
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2021 18:59:19 GMT
I also look at it this way. Any alien beings that possess the awesome (to us) technology to be able to get here in the first place certainly has the power to obliterate us from the face of the Earth. The ability to remain hidden would be trivial for them. Why then would they make such slip-ups as to be observed?
If they wanted to be seen, then 'take me to your leader' would have already happened.
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 16, 2021 19:11:20 GMT
Perhaps being seen isn't an issue for them?
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Post by Slinger on May 16, 2021 19:29:23 GMT
I also look at it this way. Any alien beings that possess the awesome (to us) technology to be able to get here in the first place certainly has the power to obliterate us from the face of the Earth. The ability to remain hidden would be trivial for them. Why then would they make such slip-ups as to be observed? If they wanted to be seen, then 'take me to your leader' would have already happened. Aliens may think in a way that is alien to us. Just a thought, Martin. Mr Whippy, stay awake, and poke us occasionally. It's not only fun, but we probably need it.  |
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2021 19:35:41 GMT
Yes I know, but according to someone close to me I can think like an alien when it suits me  |
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Post by rfan8312 on May 16, 2021 19:49:03 GMT
Anyone think its possible that this "them" that we refer to could be long gone never to be witnessed again?
But that we somehow do have a craft of theirs or reverse engineered to be like theirs in some ways? And are remotely piloting it which would possibly explain the goof up of being detected by our equipment?
Also I wonder what the chances are that someone could create an anti-gravity envelope for a craft into which the craft falls forward, as opposed to being propelled forward, "through" space and not have it be leaked to the public or any government. Though they'd need the capabilities of a massive corporation to achieve that no?
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 16, 2021 20:08:20 GMT
It's GK!
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 16, 2021 20:41:47 GMT
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jun 9, 2021 21:50:39 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Jun 10, 2021 5:29:15 GMT
Suppose that will make led car headlights legal for all then. Are they not currently for older cars? Can't see how LEDs will fit into some designs of headlights. The reflector and bulb need to be designed together. |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jun 10, 2021 6:04:57 GMT
I think it's something of a grey area. As far as I can remember I don't think they're legal fitted to older vehicles for road use. But MOT tests don't seem to fail for using them.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 1, 2021 20:30:40 GMT
Right To Repair. From today manufacturers have duty to offer spare parts for the likes of TVs, washers, cookers etc, to the public. Its an attempt to reduce the number of appliances thrown out and going into landfill. www.bbc.com/news/business-57665593 |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jul 15, 2021 5:46:36 GMT
Streaming Services. Complete turnaround sought. Common's Committee investigation.
Salt & Sugar tax.
9p on a Mars Bar!
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Post by MartinT on Jul 15, 2021 6:47:37 GMT
I hope they don't screw up streaming services to the point where one or more go bankrupt. That would not be good for the music industry.
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