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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 10, 2019 10:15:49 GMT
My guess is the automation will have it
"What about the children ?!"
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Post by MartinT on Sept 10, 2019 10:43:14 GMT
I'm sure of it, Mike. Thank goodness it won't happen during my driving life. The thought of robot cars causing deaths is horrible, but it will happen.
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Post by Slinger on Sept 10, 2019 12:04:19 GMT
If cars become totally self-driving would I still be required to pass a driving test?
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Post by MartinT on Sept 10, 2019 12:20:41 GMT
"What about the children ?!" The canard "if it saves just one life..." is one that gets my back up whenever I hear it. Life and statistics just don't work like that. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 10, 2019 13:08:58 GMT
Stranger things have happened and the pace of change gets faster
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 11, 2019 8:33:30 GMT
According to the World Health Organization, road traffic injuries caused an estimated 1.35 million deaths worldwide in the year 2016. That is, one person is killed every 25 seconds. Vehicle failure and other non 'nut behind the wheel' causes are a small percentage of that. If these systems can be made as safe as the electro-mechanical aspect of vehicles then I'm all for it. I'm with Mike, if it's safe to fall asleep then that find. I don't want me or mine to be killed by some random idiot who thinks he's Lewis Hamilton without the talent, some drugged up person on high level of THC skunk having paranoid episode, or an old duffer simply falling asleep on my way Sainsbury's etc. and that is the risk we run everyday! No amount of advance driving training or your self belief in your abilities is going to save you from these people. Remove the 'nut behind the wheel' they are too flakey. Get there automatically having listened to some music, done the crossword or had a nap. Doesn't that sound more civilised. BTW my sister and I were almost hit by a duffer who fell asleep at the wheel of a Austin Maxi 1750. It came to a halt beached on our side wall with its front wheels still going, his foot firmly on the accelerator engine revving. This was over the far side of our front garden. Fortunately we were playing near the house away from it's path. I was 7 at the time, my sister was 11. The duffer driver had fallen asleep quite a way away they traced his path back. On the dual carriageway out of Winchester to Andover. He had crossed from the mainroad, taken out several small trees (todays they'd have stopped him in his tracks) down our service road and ploughed through 3 front gardens before coming to rest through / on our sidewall. Quite a journey. Any number of people could have been mowed down during that excursion - luckily no one was serious injured. I remember going up to the drivers door and looking in, duffer who was out of it, an abrasion on his head. Neighbours came out and stopped the engine. He came to and my mum offered him a cup of tea! All very British  I remember the riding my bike in the tyre tracks and the wall being rebuilt. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 11, 2019 9:07:06 GMT
What happened to enjoying driving?
The old duffers will simply be replaced with cars with flaky firmware.
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 11, 2019 13:22:27 GMT
What happened to enjoying driving? The old duffers will simply be replaced with cars with flaky firmware. There will be too many cars for any enjoyment on public roads. The world population doubled since 1969. Unless something amazing happens it will continue. Linked, nose to tail computer controlled individual transport will be the way forward. Driving pleasure be toast I fear.. |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 19, 2020 17:14:21 GMT
Paul McCartney still uses the amplifier he saved up for at the age of 14. Said to be worth loads of Wonga now.
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Post by user211 on Aug 20, 2020 7:16:06 GMT
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Post by Mr Whippy on Aug 20, 2020 17:12:09 GMT
On the early morning news, they made it sound as if it would be worth thousands.
Have his Flaming Pie video on VHS and remember the section he shows it and the double bass used with Elvis. He also shows the Mellotron used on Strawberry Fields.
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Post by rfan8312 on Aug 21, 2020 12:30:08 GMT
According to the World Health Organization, road traffic injuries caused an estimated 1.35 million deaths worldwide in the year 2016. That is, one person is killed every 25 seconds. Vehicle failure and other non 'nut behind the wheel' causes are a small percentage of that. If these systems can be made as safe as the electro-mechanical aspect of vehicles then I'm all for it. I'm with Mike, if it's safe to fall asleep then that find. I don't want me or mine to be killed by some random idiot who thinks he's Lewis Hamilton without the talent, some drugged up person on high level of THC skunk having paranoid episode, or an old duffer simply falling asleep on my way Sainsbury's etc. and that is the risk we run everyday! No amount of advance driving training or your self belief in your abilities is going to save you from these people. Remove the 'nut behind the wheel' they are too flakey. Get there automatically having listened to some music, done the crossword or had a nap. Doesn't that sound more civilised. BTW my sister and I were almost hit by a duffer who fell asleep at the wheel of a Austin Maxi 1750. It came to a halt beached on our side wall with its front wheels still going, his foot firmly on the accelerator engine revving. This was over the far side of our front garden. Fortunately we were playing near the house away from it's path. I was 7 at the time, my sister was 11. The duffer driver had fallen asleep quite a way away they traced his path back. On the dual carriageway out of Winchester to Andover. He had crossed from the mainroad, taken out several small trees (todays they'd have stopped him in his tracks) down our service road and ploughed through 3 front gardens before coming to rest through / on our sidewall. Quite a journey. Any number of people could have been mowed down during that excursion - luckily no one was serious injured. I remember going up to the drivers door and looking in, duffer who was out of it, an abrasion on his head. Neighbours came out and stopped the engine. He came to and my mum offered him a cup of tea! All very British I remember the riding my bike in the tyre tracks and the wall being rebuilt. This post has scared me a bit. I guess I am one of those assholes who thinks they are so good at driving. My phone is in my hand the entire time that I'm driving. Though I'm usually speaking into the phone voice to text with my eyes on the road. I've come to think that I'm so good that I can keep my eyes off the road during clear open stretches that I believe no surprises could occur. I did actually frighten myself a few weeks ago I was driving on the highway at about 4 a.m. no cars around and hadn't realized that I had slowed down to about 40mph and I hit something in the road maybe just a hose or a cable or it may have been a raised surface from road work. But that's the first time I just didn't see anything coming up. I was completely distracted. I actually believe though that if the stupid moron behind-the-wheel doesn't care enough about himself then he gets what he deserves but if you hurt someone else through carelessness, you can never be forgiven. And what will your victim's life be like now. Can you imagine if you did this. Nevermind what you'll go through, you took away someone else's chance and if it wasn't for your selfish mistake they would have never had to run into you. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 21, 2020 12:44:56 GMT
For me, driving is a life-long learning exercise. I'm always trying to improve my skills and awareness. That's not to say that I don't go fast on occasion, but it's down to the conditions and my judgement - hopefully.
I never hold the phone and, these days, I don't play music much. Cutting out distractions is a major part of staying aware.
I agree that an occasional scare is an opportunity to reflect!
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Post by Mr Whippy on Nov 1, 2020 20:31:27 GMT
Really saddened to hear, only days after the death of Nobby Stiles, and a few months after the death of his brother, Jackie, that Bobby Charlton is reported to be suffering from dementia. Really sad.
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Post by Slinger on Nov 1, 2020 21:32:47 GMT
My late aunt was a nun in a nursing order in Middleton, and she took it upon herself to chase the local celebs, in the late sixties/early seventies, to open fetes etc. She always said what a nice man Nobby was.
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Post by Slinger on Nov 12, 2020 15:29:05 GMT
A manhunt was launched after the head of the army was declared ' missing in action' after being dropped in the wrong Salisbury field. General Sir Carleton-Smith, Chief of the General Staff, was “ lost” after the Army Wildcat helicopter he was travelling in on Tuesday landed at a site 600 metres away from where he was expected on Salisbury plain. A defence source told The Daily Telegraph: “There was an ‘ Oh s*** moment’ when they realised they had lost the head of the army. His visit was a really big deal and they had everything planned out. “ When they worked out where he was the greeting party raced over to get him." The Army insisted Sir Mark was never actually lost, cautioning that he was just " not where they were expecting him". A source said: “ The pilot circled overhead and decided to land at an alternative helicopter landing site, around 600 metres away from where they were expecting him to land. " He was never lost. They knew where he was the whole time.” MORE
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 12, 2020 15:51:39 GMT
Meanwhile the helicopter pilot has gone missing - permanently |
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 16, 2021 12:24:49 GMT
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Post by Slinger on May 16, 2021 14:23:42 GMT
I read this report during the week, and it's probably (imho) the best evidence to surface for a long, long, time.
"Imagine a technology that can do 600 to 700 G-Forces, that can fly at 13,000 mph, that can evade radar and fly through air and water and possibly space.
"And, oh, by the way, has no visible signs of propulsion, no wings, no controk surfaces, and yet can still defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing."
Luia Elizondo (Former Defense Department official).
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2021 16:26:07 GMT
Accepting that this is probably widespread news, I'd want to read about it from a (more) reliable source.
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